Ascari Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 He, I'm thinking of purchasing a b-wing But I was wondering how in the world do u land such a ship? I haven't seen any pics with a landing gear or anything. may not be the most important question ever but he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 I doubt you will be able to buy one. I don't think they were invented until after the time in which SWG is set. You can see them land in X-Wing Alliance and a few other places. The wings fold in and the cockpit rotates. It then lands on its side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascari Posted May 18, 2002 Author Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by MikeC I doubt you will be able to buy one. I don't think they were invented until after the time in which SWG is set. Hmm, i'll check into that. I really want my b-wing u know owns edit: I clearly saw a b-wing in the 23 minute footage! theyre in allright! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 I think B-Wing is only after Space Expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascari Posted May 18, 2002 Author Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by Crazy_dog no.3 I think B-Wing is only after Space Expansion. But arent all the other ships after the space expansion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaalgoth Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 yep. All but the swoop and speeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascari Posted May 18, 2002 Author Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by Gaalgoth yep. All but the swoop and speeder. But u cant fly in space with a swoop or a speeder, well u can try but i already guarantee that it wont be a succes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Hey, Ascari. You're not ScaryDewd over at the Galaxies board on the Station, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascari Posted May 19, 2002 Author Share Posted May 19, 2002 Originally posted by Jan Gaarni Hey, Ascari. You're not ScaryDewd over at the Galaxies board on the Station, are you? yeah I am! how'd u figure that out ? For some strange reason I picked Scarydewd as a handle! Ascari was already taken, so i set up an account as Ascary, and as handle Scarydewd.. ow well, guess it isnt that big of a deal but does anyone know what the big advantage is of the: The B-wing's command pod has a unique gyroscopic control system. The pilot can orient it so that it always stays level with a pre-designated horizon line. No matter which way the B-wing may maneuver laterally, its pilot remains upright. that the b-wing has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 Just a hunch. You posted the exact same post over at the Station. This is all my own personal view on the matter: Well, the B-Wings main advantage, as you said, is less G-forces. Let's say you're gonna make a tight turn to the left. What you need to do is flip the ship 90 degrees to your left, then pull the stick towards you. That's the fastest way to make a turn. But in doing so, you push lots of blood down into you're feet, thus you can only withstand a certain amount of G-forces before you pass out. By leaving the cockpit in the same horizontal position and only turn the rest of the ship 90 degrees, when you pull the stick towards you your body experiences a sideway's force instead of a downwards force, thus you would be able to make a tighter turn. Not much, but enough to make a difference. Another advantage is that you can rotate and spin without being distracted by the G-forces that you normally would experience, and you won't be confused what way is 'up or down' and 'left or right'. Of course, you need more training in flying such a craft, cause there are bound to be some disadvantages aswell. For instance knowing exactly how the rest of the ship is lined up compared to the cockpit. But once you handle this disadvantage, you'll be a dangerouse pilot. As for the B-Wing being in the game or not, hope not. It will just confuse the fans, and people that arn't as involved or informed might start to think that it was a fully working model at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 Then setsuko comes with the question: Why bother with G-forces, when you are in space? Oh, and I hope to see some B-wings. They are a good heavyduty bomber. However, they might have been prevalent at the time setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 G-forces still apply in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 And, I ask you, by what source of gravity? "- Oh no, wing leader, I am experiencing ten times normal gravity!" "- You mean, ten times nothing?" "- Yes! And I believe it will be the end of me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaalgoth Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 Personally, I don't really care what ship I fly in. I'll be all tactical on the ground, but when I get in space whooo doggy I'm just gonna blow stuff up. That's the best way to play flight sims; shoot everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 Originally posted by setsuko And, I ask you, by what source of gravity? "- Oh no, wing leader, I am experiencing ten times normal gravity!" "- You mean, ten times nothing?" "- Yes! And I believe it will be the end of me!" setsuko, you don't understand what a G force is. It's just the amount of force a person experiences compared to the normal force of gravity. Please note that it is compared to gravity on earth, not immediately around the person. The G-forces in alomst any case (fighter planes for instance) aren't caused by gravity but by thrust, turns, and other forces. They could measure them in newtons or pounds, but for an easy reference they compare them to the force of gravity. I don't think the rotating cockpit is the biggest advantabe of the If you have ever flown one in any of the X-Wing series of games you find that they can take a serious beating and keep going. They also pack a LOT of firepower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascari Posted May 19, 2002 Author Share Posted May 19, 2002 Originally posted by MikeC I don't think the rotating cockpit is the biggest advantabe of the If you have ever flown one in any of the X-Wing series of games you find that they can take a serious beating and keep going. They also pack a LOT of firepower. Are they any good in fighter vs. fighter? Or do I have to make some adjustments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 I don't think the rotating cockpit is the biggest advantabe of the B-Wing I'm sorry, I meant the main advantage of the Gyroscopic System. My bad. The B-Wing's MAIN advantage is the ship itself. It's weapons armament is greater than the Y-Wing, consisting of 3 auto-cannons, 3 ion cannons and 2 torpedo launchers, each holding up to 4 standard or advanced missiles/torpedos. In addition, external launchers can be fitted on the side, raising the total of missile/torpedo load to 16. And it can easily be configured. You want just ion cannons? Give the technicians a few hours and it's ready for action. The shielding and armor plating are equally as good, or even better than the Y-Wing, making it a though target to destroy. The speed is not that great, however. It's somewhere between the X-Wing and the Y-Wing. 90 MGLT I think it was, while the X-Wing is 100 and the Y-Wing 80. But what it lacks in speed it makes up for with manouverability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascari Posted May 20, 2002 Author Share Posted May 20, 2002 Originally posted by Jan Gaarni The speed is not that great, however. It's somewhere between the X-Wing and the Y-Wing. 90 MGLT I think it was, while the X-Wing is 100 and the Y-Wing 80. But what it lacks in speed it makes up for with manouverability. So your saying the B-wing has good manouverability? Hmm.. I'm beginning to like this ship better every day. Now if only I could get my hands on a B-Wing E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 It is not meant as an interceptor, the Alliance has A-wings for that (and X-wings, since the X-wing is a superiority fighter). B-wings are meant to take care of larger wessels, and as chock attackers. Since they have hyperspace capacity, they can arrive, blast a capital ship with a bombardment of photon torpedoes, and then vanish before being overcome by imperial interceptors. For longer staying power, a bunch of A and X-wings can support them, and keep Imperial Ties busy for a second bombing run, which should take care of most things less than a Star Destroyer. However, I would not like to sit in a B-wing in a duel with a Tie Interceptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 Yes, the B-Wing's primary mission is to blast the crap out of capitol ships, but it still has a good chance against other fighters. When you shot at a fighter, you tend to fire at the center of the ship, but since the ship can rotate around the cockpit, which is NOT in the center, it can evade the laser fire. Still, if it comes down to a dog fight, use something else, just to be on the safe side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 Well, the downside is that much power goes to your shields, since you have to be able to take some stray shots from turbolasers and other weapons mounted on the capital ship that SHOULD be your target. That means that you won't scare someone with your magnificient speed, or maneuverability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koffin Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 screw the B-Wing...I want a Death Star. I mean balence the issues. Good Points: B Wing: all the stuff yall said Death Star: Its a Death Star!! Bad Points: B Wing: all the stuff yall said Death Star: Its a Death Star!! Any questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Maxx Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 I'd rather have a Tie Fighter, will prolly be hard to steal one, but I'll try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zendjir Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 The B-wing is used to blast capital ships, like you all said, but in XWA it handled really well against fighters too. That's because it has the ability to obliterate an enemy fighter in one (all-cannons-linked) shot. But I rather have an A-wing when facing fighters, it's impossible to outrun enemy's in a B-wing. Oh, and about the g-force issue; in star-wars ships use somthing called 'alluvial dampers' or something wich negates the g-forces by providing an equal amount of 'counter-force' so that the g-forces are cancelled out. Without that...what would happen with the pilots if the ship went into hyperspace? SPLAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Oh, and about the g-force issue; in star-wars ships use somthing called 'alluvial dampers' or something wich negates the g-forces by providing an equal amount of 'counter-force' so that the g-forces are cancelled out. Without that...what would happen with the pilots if the ship went into hyperspace? SPLAT! I'm not sure if the Inertial Dampers, or Inertial Compensators if you will, are active all the time in fighters. Yes, all hyperspace capable ships must have them installed, otherwise you would die from the stress created by the immense acceleration. Ships that you can walk in, upright, also have them on all the time in normal space, which is apparent when watching the movies (The Falcon scenes for example). But I'm not sure if they are on in fighters, as the pilots are strapped into their seats during combat anyway. This saves power, aswell, to be directed to other more vital components during combat such as shields, engines, thrusters and/or weapons systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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