iceman9722 Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 I just went to one the duel servers I frequent and conducted a little test. I used nothing but saber throw. No attacking, nothing. Just saber throw. This is a NF server with only L1 jump, and all the saber skills enabled. Went through 10 people, no sweat. Without ghoul2collision, I don't see why anyone would need anything else.
Old_Ben Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 Of course you could win by just saber throw but then the deuls get boring really fast and soon you have no one to fight because they all leave the server,
Datheus Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 You mean like how people try to win with nothing but pull/BS?
BlackDove Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 No I think he means how people can win if they throw all the time.....
Luvac Zantor Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 While I think there are issues that need to be addressed, this just sounds like people who want to beat each other up with a glowing tree branch. Let's remove push/pull/throw/grip/lightning cause people use them too much..... It's easy to beat a thrower,,, with patience it's easy to beat someone without patience,,,, throw -- Maybe they'll stop trying to swing madly and chain combos and actually think. Just my humble opinion though, I'm sure someone will tell me I'm wrong.
BlackDove Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 Being that the jump was "on" I would just kick the bastard who threw the sabre to death...
G0G0GadgetForce Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 LOL!!! You said saber throw is getting out of hand !!!! Well of course it is... if it wansn't out of hand, it would be called a hold er something.... Sorry thought the title was funny...
BlackDove Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 Good man for noticing it. I am so tired (6am about to hit here) I didn't even notice.
Redwing Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 *gets deja vu* I think concussion rifles are getting out of hand! Wait, *cough* sorry, wrong game.
SPY_jmr1 Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 Originally posted by Redwing *gets deja vu* I think concussion rifles are getting out of hand! Wait, *cough* sorry, wrong game. hehe, in the SBX3.1 mod, it made the CR bolts saber bouceable.... it was a riot to play CR tennis:D also bouce the conker right in the teath:D the fun... the wonder... the gunzers laying in the heap in the corner... SPY
C'jais Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 If someone throws his saber at me, I pretty much take it as a sign of "no holds barred", and begin to kick him to death. Or hit him when he's laying on the ground. Or just stand there and let him come closer.... real close...
SeraphimII Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 I say to fix saber throws make it like single player where ur saber can be knocked out of the air, and double the amount of time it takes to automaticly return to you.
Dark Begger Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 well...saber throw should only be activated on force duels. NF duels should not have saber throw, and Raven already addressed that small problem. So I don't think anyone hsould have a problem with saber throw. If you find it on a nf server, then leave and find another one, that server is probably a less experienced server as compared to one where they fix it so that saber throw is not included in nF. So if they are throwing you to death..you can pull/push/grip/lightning them to death...I don't see anything too bad about that.
JandoFett1842 Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 Saber Trow? Thats not out of control, it is the newbs on NS_Streets that use grip. Thats what out of hand.
JandoFett1842 Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 Pushing is what you are suposses to do, it requires more tallent than just walking up to someone and using grip to drop them to there doom!
Fossil25 Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 but gripping is easier to get counter i find it real funny when one guy grips and i grip him back (or vice versa) and when try to get each other down the hole, with almost half the time ending with both of us falling.
BlackDove Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 I just like it when they WANT to grip me...always gives me full force so I can push em
RahnDelSol Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 There's nothing wrong with saber throw If you went and beat 10 straight people using only throw, then those 10 people weren't very good...lol I mean, seriously...if someone can't adapt to ONE tactic, they shouldn't be playing.
Masonis Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 I see nothing wrong with Saber Throw as it is. If I throw my saber at someone it's because they're swinging wildly or attempting to perform a DFA or backstab. Otherwise, any skilled player will just flip out of the way or face and block the saber. There's nothing unbalanced about it.
Beyond Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 Hmm I didn't even know saber throwing was sort of taboo - I do it all the time. I just get a couple close range throws in while I'm fighting just to diversify things a bit. That's definitely not all I use, but it is a great way to knock down a little health. I think it just gets boring in a duel when it's two people swiping at eachother unsuccessfully and intermittently trying to land kicks for 10 minutes I haven't encountered anyone who uses throw to the point of it being really lame, either. If someone was relentless, I would just leave them alone and do effective yet cheap pull/BS's whenever i happened to bump into them coming around a corner or whatever.
Redwyng Posted June 11, 2002 Posted June 11, 2002 In a NF server, is there any way to counter someone who saber throws excessively (or exclusively) without throwing back at him as much as possible? He can run backwards as fast as you can chase him, so you will NEVER get into hitting range. I think they stated that it's a bug that you can saber throw in NF servers - I don't know why more server admins don't disable it if they know how (since they often enable higher levels of jump).
BlackDove Posted June 11, 2002 Posted June 11, 2002 Start kicking the thrower and when he is on the ground backslash him. That'll teach him to start changing the tactic heh...
Redwyng Posted June 11, 2002 Posted June 11, 2002 I don't know... its alot harder to kick people who throw constantly down because they jump alot (hence don't get knocked down), plus you have to get close enough... not to mention kick requires level 2 jump I believe, while on some NF servers they only have lvl 1 jump.
Lime-Light Posted June 11, 2002 Posted June 11, 2002 Now we're complaining about saber throw? Its completely balanced. If someone is stupid enough to attack when they are far away from you, they deserve to die. Otherwise, it takes zero effort to block it.
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