SharaFett Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 remember in aotc when dooku told obi wan that if quigon- his padawan- knew that a dark sith was the head of the republic, he wouldnt stand for it? would quigon have gone to the dark side if he didnt die fighting maul? think about it: dooku, his old beloved master, shows him thta a sith lord is head of teh republic. quigon would DEFINITELY believe his master. the counsil would be doubtful, since there's no proof, and would tell quigon to refrain from taking any preliminary action. quigon, as seen in ep:1, has a differnt ideology from the counsil and many a time goes against the counsil. this stubbornness (yoda pointed out that obi-wan has the same stubbornness) would lead quigon at odds with th council. he will join dooku, kill the emperor (or perhaps get killed) and join his side as a sith. could such a scenario be highly probable? i think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 "Qui-gon Jin would never join you." That's my story, I'm stickin to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda_623 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 I don't think Qui-Gon would join Dooku even considering that he was his old master.Even like obi said about the quote from the movie. I'll stick with that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_Walker Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 I think Qui-Gon would go his own way. He wouldn't stay with the Republic, he wouldn't go to the dark side and join Dooku, he would go his own way, maybe be like Kyle Katarn and walk between the light and the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedantic Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 If Dooku acted like he wasn't a Sith, I think Qui-Gon might. However, if he knew that Dooku was a Sith (and he is) I doubt that Qui-Gon would join him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Spirit Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 Im pretty sure Qui-Gon wouldnt have joined Darth Tyranus (Dooku sounds luke a childs name for something they do on the toilet). Its clear to see Tyrannus was lying and deceitful and Qui-Gon wouldnt have been pulled in by it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted July 7, 2002 Author Share Posted July 7, 2002 i'm just saying...it all makes sense in terms of george lucas' plot-making. why would he give quigon such a rebellious personallity in tfm? ok, so rebellious is too strong a word. but as we all know, every little detail in star wars is put there with thought and with reason. there was an underlying plot in tfm, for example, when obi-wan told quigon not to go against the counsil AGAIN. wtf is AGAIN? i'll tell you what it is. there is a subtle tension between quigon and the counsil. i could perfectly see the probablilty of quigon going to the dark side. also, dooku also said that quigon would go to the dark side. this may not be great proof, but not once have we seen in star wars a sith lie (except when darth vadere and admiral tarkins told liea they wouldnt blow alderaan up- but that was more like trickery and deceit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandoFett1842 Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 Mabe, i dont really know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Doo Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Qui-Gon IS Dooku! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfmanNCSU Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Dooku could not convience Obi Wan. Plus Dooku was one of the fallen Jedi, while Qui Gon was not. I doubt that he would have gone with Dooku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Exar Kun Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Finally people who see things my way. Qui-Gon would have joined him he was a pawn in Dooku/Sidous' game Dooku used him to create his masters army and had him killed he was a pawn like Anakin who at the moment is also a pawn by my calcuations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellFyre69 Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 by the looks of it... WE WILL NEVER FOUND OUT (LOL)... but i dont think qui jon would have join the dark side.. he was working to had to let ani (anakin) to be a jedi.. Therefore caring about the light side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Doo Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 Qui-Gon would have never joined the dark side. He was powerful and wise and as ligth as ligth itself. But Qui-Gon used some other kind of force than the usual, he used the living force. So that was the reason of Jinn "disobeying" the council earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit fisto JK Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 Qui-Gon wouldnt have joined the darkside and thats that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Talliusc Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 qui gon WOULD join dooku, simply because you are all thinking dooku is part of the dark side, while he uses it i dont believe for a moment that he is truly evil. if he was evil then he wouldnt tell obiwan about sidious controlling the senate. and lets review, this guy fought yoda to a stand still AFTER taking down obi wan AND anakin skywalker. doesnt seem like there are that many people that could take him out, but we know he dies in ep3 so who kills him? either anakin/vader or sidious. either way its because sidious doesnt trust dooku any more and why would that be??? BECAUSE HES NOT EVIL, i i think that dooku would have filled in quigon on the whole story and then they would have joined together, and seeing quigon go i bet that obi wan would follow and while i dont like dooku, he IS a good jedi despite the red lightsaber, as you will ALL see in 2005, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 I think he would have joined Dooku but abandoned him when he found out he was on the Dark Side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 good to hear from ya, Hannibal! I think he wouldn't have joined Dooku because if he did, he would then know about the viceroy of the trade federation being allies with Dooku, and seeing how QUI-Gon and Nute Gunray aren't the best of buds, trouble would break loose. On a side note, Hannibal, how did you make your avatar? Tell me please!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 Good to be heard from. I used the AOTC trailer. It's the part where he's saying "This party's over." Amazingly, Sam Jackson's head stays perfectly still for this line so I was able to cut each picture at the same point. Resize it to 70x70 and use this cheap little program that animates gifs(that i got at download.com). I could only use 4 or 5 frames though to meet the 20k max avatar size. I didn't take that long(actually it did but that's only cause I had to get the right combination of frames for the right look). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-Nasty Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 no way would he have joined dooku he just aint dark side material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted July 17, 2002 Author Share Posted July 17, 2002 what exactly makes "dark side material?" quigon obviously has his odds against the jedi counsil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 Yes, but the living force was just another version of the normal ligth side force. Jinn is far from sith. He was even the one who saved the galaxy! Jinn see the force in Anakin, Anakin throws the Emperor down a big hole and saves the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rut-wa jodar Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 dooku would probably not have turned to the darkside if qui-gon had not died..... maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted July 18, 2002 Author Share Posted July 18, 2002 i dont believe that. and quigon- your post is compleetely irrelevant. when i think of the division between quigon and the counsil, i think of the sects of protestantism and catholicism. all quigon needed was something big to divide him from the counsil. he would then lose faith in the counsil and its decisions. then, seeing that a sith lord is head of the senate (and since the counsil wouldnt do anything about it), he would go his own way and fight sideous. he would either die or kill sideous. killing him (in the state of mind that he is) would cause him to turn over. he was right and the counsil was WRONG would be his mentality. thus, the counsil is wrong about OTHER things, as well. THAT"s my point and i'm sticking to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Perhaps we'll find out that Qui-Gon was the one to erase Geonosis from the Jedi Database and kill Sifo-Dyas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JrKASperov Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Originally posted by SharaFett killing him (in the state of mind that he is) would cause him to turn over. he was right and the counsil was WRONG would be his mentality. thus, the counsil is wrong about OTHER things, as well. THAT"s my point and i'm sticking to it! No way Qui Gonn would ever turn over to the dark side... He knows the council is wrong about some stuff, but not about which side is the right one, he is too wise to think that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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