Darth Exar Kun Posted July 8, 2002 Author Share Posted July 8, 2002 he was a clone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimII Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Ha! Thats what he wants you to think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 This all started on the Episode II forums when Natty's boyfriend demonstrated his apparent enormous cluelessness. The idea is based on the "fact" that Sifo-Dyas was Qui-Gon's council name. Sidious called Dooku "Tyrannus" at the very end of the movie. "Tyrannus" recruited Jango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Doo Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 As far as Obi-Wan knew, Sifo Dias died 10 years ago. So it migth have been Qui-Gon Jinn who was Sifo Dias. But we all know that QUI-GON JINN DIED BEFORE THE CLONES WERE ORDERED!!! And here is another shocking fact: PALPANTINE IS NOT DARTH SIDIOUS!!!!! If you look at starwars.com, you can see that PALPANTINE IS 1.73 METERS HIGH while SIDIOUS IS 1.78 METERS!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qui-GONE Jinn Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 How can that be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Originally posted by Obi-Doo As far as Obi-Wan knew, Sifo Dias died 10 years ago. So it migth have been Qui-Gon Jinn who was Sifo Dias. But we all know that QUI-GON JINN DIED BEFORE THE CLONES WERE ORDERED!!! And here is another shocking fact: PALPANTINE IS NOT DARTH SIDIOUS!!!!! If you look at starwars.com, you can see that PALPANTINE IS 1.73 METERS HIGH while SIDIOUS IS 1.78 METERS!!!!! Maybe they add in the height of the clothes and equipment.And,do you really think Palpatine was so lucky as to have a position open for counselour,while in a war? too many coincidences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Exar Kun Posted July 9, 2002 Author Share Posted July 9, 2002 Originally posted by Obi-Doo [b And here is another shocking fact: PALPANTINE IS NOT DARTH SIDIOUS!!!!! If you look at starwars.com, you can see that PALPANTINE IS 1.73 METERS HIGH while SIDIOUS IS 1.78 METERS!!!!! [/b] I'm Sidous was with Maul when Papletine was still at Corcesont becoming Chanceller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Exar Kun I'm Sidous was with Maul when Papletine was still at Corcesont becoming Chanceller Hell no.He was a senator of Naboo when Maul was around.The becoming chanceller part was 10 years after Maul's death,right in AOTC timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimII Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Originally posted by Obi-Doo PALPANTINE IS NOT DARTH SIDIOUS!!!!! If you look at starwars.com, you can see that PALPANTINE IS 1.73 METERS HIGH while SIDIOUS IS 1.78 METERS!!!!! Damnit that means that old people in black cloaks is coming back instyle. We see Sidious in a black cloak in e1, 2, 3? and then in ep4, 5, 6 we see a clearly named Emporer Palpatine in a black cloak electricuting Luke. [sarcasm] Maybe Sidious trains Palpatine so he can become eperor and beat the crap outa some jedis, but Palpatine kills Sidious, with the help of Anakin, and RULES THE UNIVERSE, for like 25 years...[/sarcasm] Or Sidious is a creepy one and likes to wear platforms or high heels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimII Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Exar Kun I'm Sidous was with Maul when Papletine was still at Corcesont becoming Chanceller Also when sidious was with maul did it show where they were? Why couldn't they've been on Corisant, and the other times he appeared he was a hologram on a comunique, which could have been sent from anywhere. And Palpatine became chanceller before Natale Portman (Drool) left Corisant in ep1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Originally posted by SeraphimII Also when sidious was with maul did it show where they were? Why couldn't they've been on Corisant, and the other times he appeared he was a hologram on a comunique, which could have been sent from anywhere. And Palpatine became chanceller before Natale Portman (Drool) left Corisant in ep1. No, he didn't become chancellor before Padme left Coruscant. He was just elected. "If I am elected, your majesty, blag blah......" ANyways, SIDOIUS IS PALPATINE! THERE IS NO "WHAT IF'S!" ACCEPT THAT FACT! Palpatine may be 1.73 meters high, and sidious 1.78, But people grow taller over time. (it was like what, 20 years from EPIII to ANH?) There is no cloning envolved, there is no decoy, nothing like that. ANd yes, Maul was with Sidious(Palpatine) on Coruscant. If you thought they where somewhere else, your a stupid moron. You can clearly see the speeders in the air, and the buildings, that can be found no where else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Exar Kun Posted July 9, 2002 Author Share Posted July 9, 2002 Sidous is a wrtinkley old terd and doesn't sound like Palpatine who became chanceller in episode 1. is Sidous is really old now in 50 years he would be like dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Papletine is the aprentice in ep 1. Yoda said blabalablablablabla with was destroyed the master or the aprentice blablabla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Angel Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 That's right, Palpatine announced his victory in the election for Supreme Chancellor when he landed on Naboo in TPM. According to HolonetNews.com (which is canon, because it's by Lucasfilm), I think, it says that Palpatine has been using the Separatist movement to stay in office longer than the term allows. He's been in for 10 years. (Sort of like how President Roosevelt served 4 terms because of World War II.) I don't know about the height thing, maybe they're counting the point of his hood. And come on, in TPM, when Mace Windu says "who was destroyed, the master or the apprentice?" the camera switches to a close-up of Palpatine. It's that simple. And Palpatine's life is sustained by the Force (just that the Dark Side makes him uglier/ruins his body.) If Yoda weren't a Jedi, you think he would live to be 900 years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Originally posted by Shadow Angel That's right, Palpatine announced his victory in the election for Supreme Chancellor when he landed on Naboo in TPM. According to HolonetNews.com (which is canon, because it's by Lucasfilm), I think, it says that Palpatine has been using the Separatist movement to stay in office longer than the term allows. He's been in for 10 years. (Sort of like how President Roosevelt served 4 terms because of World War II.) I don't know about the height thing, maybe they're counting the point of his hood. And come on, in TPM, when Mace Windu says "who was destroyed, the master or the apprentice?" the camera switches to a close-up of Palpatine. It's that simple. And Palpatine's life is sustained by the Force (just that the Dark Side makes him uglier/ruins his body.) If Yoda weren't a Jedi, you think he would live to be 900 years old? Thank you. Exar, Sidious is Palpatine. Why wouldn't he be? If "Everything is going as planned," How would that let Sidious on the throne instead of Palpatine? Would Sidious kill his identical twin? I think not. Sidious=Palpatine. end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfmanNCSU Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Originally posted by obi-wan13 Sidious=Palpatine. end of story. Beat me too it. Where ever you look to find SW info, you see the emperor named emperor palpatine, which has a pic of the same guy who zaps luke with lightning at the end of RotJ (Sideous). Makes perfect sense to me. Plus this is how the story goes, its always been this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Exar Kun Posted July 9, 2002 Author Share Posted July 9, 2002 Sidous and Palpatine could be using the clone technogly for themselve/themself. Like the dark Empire comicbook the answer lies in the EU Palpatine cloned himself and sent a clone Sifo Dias to Kamino and ordered the clones.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 starwars.com is not the be all and end all MAYBE ITS WRONG (shock horror) its wrong about maul and kuns sabres (says theyre sith sabres ... when only those 2 use em) and the person that said sifo dias is missing from it ...... lots of people are esp. from the EU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticSpade Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 ok Wolfman is right a height differential means nothing, in ROTJ he is referred to as "Emporer Palpatine". And in TPM when it is asked "well who have we defeated, the master, or the apprentice", Darth Maul was the apprentice, Palpatine/Sidious is the master. Yoda stated there is always two a master and an apprentice so that means he took Dooku after TPM which makes perfect sense in the fact that Dooku did place the order for the clone army. Also in TPM you never actually see where Sidious and Maul are in the movie, so he could of sent the message from Coruscant. And someone had stated that they sounded different <Sidious/Palpatine> this is a poor example but for instance Bruce Wayne/Batman. When he was portraying Bruce Wayne he had a mellow toned voice, and when he was portraying Batman he lowered his voice and was more articulate <as is Palpatine/Sidious has been doing>. So there you have it. Don't believe it if you don't want to, but it is the TRUTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throno-Denkai Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Exar Kun I believe it was Qui-Gon because of the way Dooku said not a exact quote iwhich i dont remember but it was something like i knew qui-gon better than you. And everyone remember Dooku had no idea about the clones and Qui-Gon died ten years ago why not Qui-Gon he did always dissobay the concil sifo dias is nothing like sidous and sidious and papeltine are same person i didnt think of it before if ther senate was controlled by sidous and papeltine controlled the senate ssame person Whatch what you are saying. Qui-gon was one of the most honest jedis in the council. If he did it, than he would join to the dark side when he did this crap. Also he knew about the clones, if he didnt, why that he said "Good news, war has begun." You better go see the movie 3 more times, than maybe you can understand why did Dooku said that he knew Qui-gon better, if you watch 2 more times after that, maybe you can understand about clone army!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelous* Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Sidous is a wrtinkley old terd and doesn't sound like Palpatine who became chanceller in episode 1. is Sidous is really old now in 50 years he would be like dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Papletine is the aprentice in ep 1. Yoda said blabalablablablabla with was destroyed the master or the aprentice blablabla Yoda was referring to Darth maul, as he was the apprentice of Darth sidious, who is palpatine, easy. i mean, he even looks like him. I mean, his clone army looks like stormtroopers, them ships at the end of ep2 were BLATENTLY early looking star destroyers. duh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zindell Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 It was sidious pretending to be Sifo Dias. I'd wager money on that. I'm so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfmanNCSU Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Plus Dooku said that the dark lord of the sith already sits upon the head of the senate. Hmmm, does Palatine sit upon the head of the senate. Interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JrKASperov Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Allright, enough of this foolishness, Palpatine IS Sidious, and there are several reasons: 1.GL confirmed it(it's on theForce.net somewheres) 2.Palpatine becomes the Dark Lord later, so he should be Sidious 3.Dooku states the senate being ruled by the Dark Lord of the Sith, being Palpatine 4.it's the same actor And on-topic: Sifo-Dyas looked a LOT like Sidious to me:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Originally posted by JrKASperov And on-topic: Sifo-Dyas looked a LOT like Sidious to me:rolleyes: where, prey tell, did you get a pic of Sifo Dias? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JrKASperov Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Hmm, I was talking about the names and the sounding of the names... Xcuse me for the trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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