GE Predator Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 "Yes, we are discussing changes to the PvP system. Yes, it might involve removing Outcasting and wild space. The reasons why we are considering it are: to simplify the system to ensure that people feel a sense of "belonging" to the different sides (even in support roles) to provide PvE ways of fighting the GCW to strengthen the PvP side of the equation as well to try to empower towns to have more control over their space In other words, it would NOT be to have one side or the other of the eternal PvP debate "win." The game will not have PK gankers. We are also not cutting PvP. Nothing in the basic philosophies has changed. What we are trying to do is improve on the system we have. Not change direction." No wild space and outcasting?! AHH!! Why don't they just remove ALL any means of being a bad guy? Effectively chopping SWG's balls off. *sigh* MAN, this game BETTER not turn out to have a target audience of 10 year olds. My clan and I have been hoping so much that SWG will live up to all the hype, but I get the feeling it'll probably be 'just another neat game'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourGod Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 yeah...w/all the debates about "spice" as well - it's seemin like all the bastard-over-protective-cencoring-parents may ruin another thing! what's wild space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koffin Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Wild Space was a zone or area where all rules were off. Basicly out there, you could get away with some stuff that would not be allowed within cities or other similar zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sckitzo Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 oh bugger that. thoguh im sure they know that a 10 year old audince wont have one thing it needs. a Credit Card =) so we wont have to worry to much, just rember the movies are really mellow but the games and books of EU are alot more violent. hopefully thell bas eit off the later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Kun II Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 "Oh God! This Star Wars Galaxies is going to turn our children into bloodthirsty maniacs! You must censor this game, because we as parents are too wrapped up in our own lives to properly raise our children and monitor what they do!" -The overbearing people of the world who try to set the standard for everyone. They are going to kill this game before it begins, if they keep it up. MMORPG's are geared toward more mature players, not kids. They can release games like Grand Theft Auto III on a console, but Star Wars, without a doubt the "cleanest" film you can see is being shredded. A sense of "belonging"? this is a galaxy in turmoil, riddled by civil war. I understand the community aspect, but if they are not careful, they will take it too far. This is starting to really annoy me. Whew. . .OK, venting is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 MMORPG hmmmmm.. i wonder what it stands for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sckitzo Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Maniac Mothers On Requiring Parental Guidance..... Yeah stupid censors to bad the game wasnt be made in the UK or germany the censors are so much more libral, htoguh the violence would be really low. The us has the most violent video agmes out there with maybe the exception of Japan. We just cringe and cover our eyes if nudity or sex is invovled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 thank god im 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norin Radd Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 If they curtail all of these things, they will kill most of the game's appeal along with their revenue. The SW universe was like the old west. Wild and untamed. I think Sckitzo has a good point. The little kids still under their mother's thumb don't have credit cards, and I think that is what Lucasarts will look at. The Wild Space must survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourGod Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 i'm not 1 of those crazy star wars enthusiasts - but i did watch the movies...& one scene in particular fits right in2 this ****... in the first movie (not the horrid Episode I - the real first 1 A New Hope (i think that's what it was called) & they were all in the bar & obi wan chops up sum dude right in front of evrybody & nobody cares much at all...& the same a few minutes later when han kills gredo...the star wars world obviously embraces violence if nothing else, and this must be supported in the games...therefore, i was against seein the whole "outcasting", but the "Wild Space" would be great - unless by removing these two concepts they mean to make the entire universe a "wild space", where the only consequences are what the ppl who see may the act may choose to do. & what's "PvE"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalGuard Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 PvE = Player vs Environment I think the reason that they changed outcasting was so that people could roleplay being villains. The devs are planning on setting things up so that the major/leader of a community decides the local laws with respect to PvP. Could work very well, could go horribly wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koffin Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 But very very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Originally posted by YourGod i'm not 1 of those crazy star wars enthusiasts - but i did watch the movies...& one scene in particular fits right in2 this ****... in the first movie (not the horrid Episode I - the real first 1 A New Hope (i think that's what it was called) & they were all in the bar & obi wan chops up sum dude right in front of evrybody & nobody cares much at all...& the same a few minutes later when han kills gredo...the star wars world obviously embraces violence if nothing else, and this must be supported in the games...therefore, i was against seein the whole "outcasting", but the "Wild Space" would be great - unless by removing these two concepts they mean to make the entire universe a "wild space", where the only consequences are what the ppl who see may the act may choose to do. I think there is a major piece of information missing from your analysis. The bar all that happened in (and yes it was in A New Hope) was known as a "hive of scum and villany". I think you go too far to say that because the people in there didn't care about a couple of murders that the "star wars world obviously embraces violence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koffin Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 On the issue of violence and censorship within video games, the game could ne The Smurf's Big Online Adventure and some parent somewhere would want to censor it on the grounds that its degrading toward blue people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norin Radd Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 LOL! I hear you, Koffin. I remember a certain Smurf episode where a virus was spread by a fly, which turned some of the Smurfs purple. Well, the blue Smurfs went to capture and cure the Purple smurfs and a "battle" ensued, if you can call it that. Anyway, a woman actually complained in the news that the episode was promoting racism because the blue Smurfs were trying to subjugate the purple Smurfs, because they were a different color. The point being, there are people who are going to find fault with anything, no matter how innocent. Besides Disney and Star Wars films, you would be hard-pressed to find a movie you would feel comfortable taking your children to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewok Hunter Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 and then some mom will say that little green men with light sticks will cause her baby to grow a third arm:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D@rth M@ul Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 have the removed the lightsabers yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koffin Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 no just the green man.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Originally posted by Norin Radd Besides Disney and Star Wars films, you would be hard-pressed to find a movie you would feel comfortable taking your children to. Go rewatch Star Wars. Count the dismemberments, deaths, weapons. See what you think then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koffin Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 Go rewatch Star Wars. Count the dismemberments, deaths, weapons. See what you think then Hey, thats everything a growing boy needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 lol.. i was scared of Star Wars when i was a little boy.... it was a very scary movie for me..... espescially Darth Vader is very scary when you are 6 yoars old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D@rth M@ul Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Yes, Darth did strike a bit of fear into me. But the sabers really helped my imagination grow, I remeber running around the house with those sabers that wal-mart had, ahh the memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D@rth M@ul Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Originally posted by ewok hunter did they glow;) were talking old school here bro, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewok Hunter Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 did they glow;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewok Hunter Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Originally posted by D@rth M@ul were talking old school here bro, man these time warps are annoying, would miss the post if it weren't for the last post info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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