simwiz2 Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Originally posted by Kryllith This is an interesting point which has either being overlooked. Of course, given the dynamics of SWGB, it's possible it's simply been ignored given that all units have to stop before they fire. If SWGB II (or it's equivalent) made fighters strafe like they do in the movies, then one of the unique qualities of the Gunship (or similiar armed transport) would be hovering and firing. I can think of a number of ways this could affect gameplay. A hovering gunship would be an easier target, but also have better accuracy, while fighters/bombers would be harder to hit but perhaps poorer aim. Additionally, the Gunship could hover just outside the range of turrets to attack troops. While fighters/bombers would have to keep moving and putting them in jeopardy of the turrets more often (of course, since they could fire while their flying...) Kryllith You're right, this could work in SWGB 2, but I don't think it would be good to force helicoper-like units on all the civs. It could be good with unique unit sets, and accurate fire could be one of it's strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 I was thinking of it for the Gunship specifically as a unique unit, but I know a number of people suggested having armed transports for all the civs so it could apply there too. Personally I'd prefer only 1 or 2 UU having it since it would futher create diversity. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted September 20, 2002 Share Posted September 20, 2002 I said that a hundred years ago and it is now that people start to consider it's a nice idea. some civ should get it only so we don't have a forced unit like the gungan armed air transport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL ShadowJedi Posted September 20, 2002 Share Posted September 20, 2002 well if republic gets gunship as a UU the empire shud have the AT-AT removed from mech and make it a UU (Even Stronger) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 as you two seem to always be at each others throats. No, its simwiz and windu who at each others throats. I just sit here and egg them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 hehe, I must have mistaken the egging for throat-jabbing. I figure Windu and Simwiz were going for all out war. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 hehe, I must have mistaken the egging for throat-jabbing. I figure Windu and Simwiz were going for all out war. but...who is gonna win that war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Simwiz from the looks of it:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 sure... simwiz can win a war with windu... but he still cant play CC at fast speed or w/o an explored map! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simwiz2 Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 I prefer what settings I prefer, you don't like it then find another RM game if you can Sith got you off easy. I was going to post something much... meaner, but Sith talked me out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 I prefer what settings I prefer, you don't like it then find another RM game if you can In other words he not adaptable and knows only one strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simwiz2 Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Originally posted by Sithmaster_821 In other words he not adaptable and knows only one strat. First, let's clear something up. I could beat you at this game any settings, any speed, any map. I don't like fast speed because IMO it is not as fun and it is a pain to manage battles and to click on units, but I could easily beat you or pbguy on it. I am used to normal, and you are used to fast. I like explored because I hate the micro of exploring the map, you like unexplored. They are just different preferences on how the game is most fun. When I host a game and it specifically says normal speed explored map, and illiterate morons wait until after launch to say "wait, normal, i thought it was fast, change it or i leave" that will not make me change it, it will simply give me contempt for their inability to read. I don't care if everyone else wants fast, I don't care if you are gleefully giggling on the phone as you join pbguy in spamming FAST NOW just to annoy me, it stays as normal. If everyone leaves, I find 3 other people and launch again. Okay maybe that was a bit harsh but hopefully you get the point. You were giggling something about "bringing this [the game] up on the forums" but I didn't think you would really post it. Yet you went and instigated another flame war. Let's get this thread back on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 I just sit here and egg them on. Case in point:D :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 And I'm saying you could NOT beat me in a normal game, at even NORMAL speed on an unexplored map. It's part of the game. Period. Only noobs play with explored maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadrixTF Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 simwiz2 @ pbguy1211 If you want to settle this debate about who can beat who at what settings, then just go ahead and play it out - then at least you will both know the answer to that question... Sithmaster I see you changed your picture ID - any reason for that - i preferred the previous one - but i suppose change can be refreshing sometimes...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simwiz2 Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 Originally posted by pbguy1211 And I'm saying you could NOT beat me in a normal game, at even NORMAL speed on an unexplored map. It's part of the game. Period. Only noobs play with explored maps. Whether the map is explored or not will not make that big of a difference. Since the settings were what I am used to, I admit I may have had a slight advantage, but that game was NOT close. You lost horribly. I don't remember if it was me or Sith who rushed you, but if Sith rushed you successfully then I can rush you even easier. And if I rushed you, then I already beat you. You were defeated early, with no more struggle than a high inter has taking out a low rook. Only morons call those who are better than them n00bs. Give me a few days to get re-used to unexplored, and then we can have a 1v1 or 2v2 if u want. You think you're so good, then prove it. Just try to actually play the game out this time, rather than resigning after 20 minutes as soon as troops appear near your base and proceeding to cry about the speed. And having a slower speed does NOT cause someone to do worse. So no whining when the game is normal speed. Playing on normal is a habit left over from when I had a slow piece of **** computer, and it was impossible to click on things when the speed was fast. Now that I have played both speeds on my new computer, I still find normal more fun. Pbguy, you are the very definition of a sore loser. You get beat, you whine about the speed and settings. If you don't like the settings then don't play in my game! If you get beat, say gg and get over it, don't make lame excuses! Hopefully in any future games there will be no crying when you lose. You are the only one who would lose a game and then bring it up on forums and then call the person who beat you a n00b. It defies common sense: if you lose you don't brag about it because you don't have anything to brag about, and the person who beat you (easily) is obviously better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 The gunship thread is on its 7th page now:eek: And none of it makes sense! Most of it is windu's innane drivel and a whole bunch of nothing, plus a flame war or two Whether the map is explored or not will not make that big of a difference. Since the settings were what I am used to, I admit I may have had a slight advantage, but that game was NOT close. You lost horribly. I don't remember if it was me or Sith who rushed you, but if Sith rushed you successfully then I can rush you even easier. And if I rushed you, then I already beat you. You were defeated early, with no more struggle than a high inter has taking out a low rook. Only morons call those who are better than them n00bs. Give me a few days to get re-used to unexplored, and then we can have a 1v1 or 2v2 if u want. You think you're so good, then prove it. Just try to actually play the game out this time, rather than resigning after 20 minutes as soon as troops appear near your base and proceeding to cry about the speed. And having a slower speed does NOT cause someone to do worse. So no whining when the game is normal speed. Playing on normal is a habit left over from when I had a slow piece of **** computer, and it was impossible to click on things when the speed was fast. Now that I have played both speeds on my new computer, I still find normal more fun. Pbguy, you are the very definition of a sore loser. You get beat, you whine about the speed and settings. If you don't like the settings then don't play in my game! If you get beat, say gg and get over it, don't make lame excuses! Hopefully in any future games there will be no crying when you lose. You are the only one who would lose a game and then bring it up on forums and then call the person who beat you a n00b. It defies common sense: if you lose you don't brag about it because you don't have anything to brag about, and the person who beat you (easily) is obviously better than you. Only simwiz would... pbguy, i would advise not responding. Certain people take things way too seriously, if you respond he'll have another hissy fit. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simwiz2 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Originally posted by Sithmaster_821 pbguy, i would advise not responding. Certain people take things way too seriously, if you respond he'll have another hissy fit. :) I would seriously advise shutting up and minding your own damn business. You always have this inane fascination with starting flame wars, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 See what did i tell you: hissy fit. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 i'm not too worried about "thewiz"... the only time he ever beat me in a game is when your were on his team and you f'd me up pretty good. he had nothing to do with it, but seems to feel otherwise for some reason. go figure. and i repeat, only noobs play with explored maps. period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorranSec Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Heh. Sith is sorta right. None of this is making sense, but the main point is we're not talking about the gunship anymore. Well, unless Windu comes back and boots us all back into frantic debate. *immediately regrets saying that, as things I say have a tendency to come true* You are the only one who would lose a game and then bring it up on forums and then call the person who beat you a n00b. Hang on.... wasn't there some guy in simwiz's thread about the Jedi Starfighter roaching tactic who did that? hissy fit Arg. Sith, you really do seem to enjoy loading a gun and putting it in front of two people who don't like each other. Figuratively speaking, of course... though I have no doubt you've done that in some game or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simwiz2 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Originally posted by pbguy1211 i'm not too worried about "thewiz"... the only time he ever beat me in a game is when your were on his team and you f'd me up pretty good. he had nothing to do with it, but seems to feel otherwise for some reason. go figure. I f'd your ally up pretty good, despite the fact that my mom kept coming in every 5 minutes to make sure I did my homework. And why do you desperately cling to the belief that you would have done any better against a rush from me than from Sith, or that you would have done any better against my rush than your ally did? Sith and I had about the same score when the game was over, and you and your ally had similar scores. Sith happened to be closer to you, so he removed your base. I happened to be closer to your ally, so I removed his base. Since neither one of us is better than the other, you would have lost regardless of who rushed you. Corran, I don't dislike pbguy, but Sith has this inane fascination with starting flame wars, and he convinced pbguy to fabricate his brilliant first post (which I let go by because it was so stupid), but Sith egged it on until it reached its current state with 3 people arguing over who is a n00b and what settings are n00bish and who is better, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadrixTF Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Please, please someone close this thread - it died on page 1 already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 It died four threads ago. Simwiz, his ally was a bunch of houses and a command center. Yet it still took you forever to destroy it. Pbguy and i had a pretty massive t2, battle, followed by an equally massive t3 battle between him and his ally's remenants and me. I only won because i was able to plop a fort down on the battlefeild. Our scores were not equal, and pb's and his allies scores were not equal. On saturday, when pbguy hands you your a$$ ill be right there laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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