t3rr0r Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Vigrid Can alpha maps be used without making the hair appear real thin? yes they can. like you could make the edges whispy or something, yet the rest be thick. take a look at hapslash's green twi'lek skin, more specifically the net flaps at her waist. that utilizes alpha maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted August 7, 2002 Author Share Posted August 7, 2002 Thanks for the help t3rr0r. I'll get all that shader stuff worked out soon. In the meantime, I've done some work on the robes. Click for the pic Criticism is welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted August 7, 2002 Author Share Posted August 7, 2002 Here's a side view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 God damn that's cool. I suggest you do a version with a shirt instead of seeing his skin.. just an idea...keep up the good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted August 8, 2002 Author Share Posted August 8, 2002 I did some more work on the robes, and started the hair. Don't mind the belt. I have'nt started it yet. As for the color of his chest and face, I still have more to work on there. The Pic I also have to make the torso match the arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillon Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 i don't know if it was mentioned here or in the skinning thread, but those abs are looking too ripped ... and i know you know that, i just wanted to mention it again. i wonder how many sit-ups you gotta do to get THEM?! lol the texture you have on the robe is making it really look like fabric ... good job on that. i'd keep the bare chest instead of a shirt version ... how else would you see his pimp-daddy gold chains? the hair and face look great to me. i'm very impressed how it went from grayscale to full-color and looks so great. you've said in the past that this is your first model/skin, right? the more progress you show, the more i'm inclined to say that you just might be trying to pull a fast one on us. this guy is a high-quality, grade-A, USDA prime piece of kick@$$ work. keep up the great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted August 8, 2002 Author Share Posted August 8, 2002 Thanks adillon, but this truley is my first model. About the abs, I'll tone them down but Joruus is pretty ripped. I'm going by the cover of Heir to the Empire. I'll post of pic of it as soon as I have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillon Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Vigrid this truley is my first model oh, i'm sure it is ... i'm just so impressed by this project i felt i needed to mess around with your head a little bit and give you a hard time. since it IS your first model, i can't wait to see how much more incredible your next go-around is. seriously though, what are your thoughts/ideas/plans for sounds and/or taunts for ole joruus here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradFu Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 Looking good, Vigrid! I think the skin is going very well so far I agree that it should definitely be obvious that he's well-muscled, so I think you should keep it as it is, because when it gets in-game, it'll be a bit more blurry and washed out, so if you have the current level of contrast, it should work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3rr0r Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 Originally posted by BradFu I agree that it should definitely be obvious that he's well-muscled, so I think you should keep it as it is, because when it gets in-game, it'll be a bit more blurry and washed out, so if you have the current level of contrast, it should work well. not so, at a high picmip setting, everything would appear just as detailed. and the jk2 lighting might darken the shadows too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bodle Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 This skin looks cool. I can't wait to see it in game. Keep up the good work !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted August 9, 2002 Author Share Posted August 9, 2002 Thanks for the praise. I'm pretty happy with the way the skin has turned out so far. I worked some on the belt, and toned the abs down a little bit. About the sounds, that is a very good question. I've thought about it and really haven't come up with any solution. I'd rather not use default sounds, so if anybody can help in that department that would be great. Updated Pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillon Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 man, joruus just keeps getting better and better. i'm have just started to reading HEIR TO THE EMPIRE ... just finished up I, JEDI ... seeing this model made the decision obvious as to which book to read next. please don't ruin anything for me, but you've said before that joruus is an insane clone, right? i think his sounds and taunt should reflect this loss of mental capacity. he could laugh a lot, but not the laugh of the reborn/galak/shadowtrooper ... there's gotta be a lunacy in how he sounds. is there anything from the book that you think might be a good taunt? what i'm trying to say is, i'd be MORE than willing to help you out with the custom sounds. i have some editing software (sound forge) so i can record and modify/edit as necessary. PM me if you're interested, and we can figure this out. keep up the great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3rr0r Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Vigrid I've thought about it and really haven't come up with any solution. I'd rather not use default sounds, so if anybody can help in that department that would be great. maybe these gandalf sounds could be of some use (they could use some editing/cutting here and there). http://www.myfavmovies.com/cgi-bin/DownloadWav.cgi?01200035&Lord of the Rings The Fellowship of the Ring&0056 http://www.myfavmovies.com/cgi-bin/DownloadWav.cgi?01200035&Lord of the Rings The Fellowship of the Ring&0057 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted August 12, 2002 Author Share Posted August 12, 2002 I started doing some weighting of my mesh and when I tried to assimilate I got this message: "Unable to find bone "l_hand" referenced in this mesh" This is pretty weird since l_hand isn't even a bone. Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-Nasty Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 that sounds like the problem that occured with the padme model you should try and contact Anavel Gato, he will probably be able to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted August 13, 2002 Author Share Posted August 13, 2002 Harukaze has contacted me and he will no longer be working on a Jorus skin. He's been pretty busy lately and has lost his internet connection. I've been talking to adillon and he's agreed to put together some custom sounds for Joruus. I started some weighting yesterday just to see if I could get Joruus in game. The final skin is still not completed however. Right know Joruus does not have any legs underneath the robe, there are only the shins and the legs. I've been debating what I'm going to do with that area. I think I might model some new legs and feet because Joruus wears sandals. But I think I may run into clipping problems if he has legs underneath the robe. The Mon Mothma model only has the bottoms of the legs, and I've been using that as the idea for mine. The problem is the split down the middle. With it you can see under the robe in certain angles. So I don't know what to do. Anyone have any ideas. I'll probably have to end up modeling the entire leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted August 16, 2002 Author Share Posted August 16, 2002 Well Joruus is now in ModView, but I still have alot of clipping issues to work out. The good news is I'm pretty happy with the way I've weighted the robe. As soon as I get a decent weighting done, I'll go back and finish up the skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillon Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 hey DV, i'll give you 2 guesses as to who my new avatar is?? Originally posted by Darth Vigrid Right know Joruus does not have any legs underneath the robe, there are only the shins and the legs. I've been debating what I'm going to do with that area. I think I might model some new legs and feet because Joruus wears sandals. But I think I may run into clipping problems if he has legs underneath the robe. The Mon Mothma model only has the bottoms of the legs, and I've been using that as the idea for mine. The problem is the split down the middle. With it you can see under the robe in certain angles. So I don't know what to do. Anyone have any ideas. i think modeling new shins and feet is a good way to go, that way he will be able to have his sandals, as he should. from what i understand, and please correct me if i'm wrong, but is the split in the robe actually part of the model or is it the skin? if it is how joruus is modeled, and since the split isn't that large, would you really see his legs? can you model it without the split and just skin it to look like it's split? just paint it black? i don't really know how it'll look if it's skinned to look split, but this would help you avoid modeling the full legs and clipping the robe. btw, i hope to have preliminary sounds sent to you by sunday. are you able to receive relatively large e-mails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted August 16, 2002 Author Share Posted August 16, 2002 adillon, I see you've been sportin that new Joruus avatar, Very Cool Pic. I actually modeled the robe split. I think this is necessary. If I just made it part of the skin, it would probably look weird in certain animations. What I've been thinking of doing is to just model another layer underneath so when the robe splits the legs will not be seen. I will be making the sandals and lower part of the legs though. I should be able to recieve the sounds. Just don't send them to my Hotmail account. Send them... Right Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillon Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 joruus is a very cool character ... i figured as long as i was helping you out, i'd show him off in my avatar. plus the pic, without knowing WHO he is, is a pretty cool image in itself. your idea to model the 2nd layer seems like a good one. it'll be dark under his robe, so i don't see how you'd see his legs anyway. hope it works out for you. i'll send you the sounds, most likely tonite (yeah, you heard me right), to that address. i was thinking of posting them here as well to get other people's input ... stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillon Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 here are my first stabs at creating sounds for ole joruus. since jkII now has the capability to have up to 12 taunts, darth vigrid and i have decided to take advantage of this make a few taunts. here are the two we have come up with so far ... lines that he says from Heir to the Empire. if anybody knows of any other lines from that book, or the other two books in the thrawn trilogy, that you think would work please let us know. basically what we're going for is a rather dignified, noble, sophisticated, confident voice. he is supposed to be insane, but only because he believed himself to be a jedi master, but his actions were not that of a jedi at all. here they are ... i grow tired of waiting and now i will kill you ... let us know what you think. THANKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted August 18, 2002 Author Share Posted August 18, 2002 Great job, adillon. Joruus now has a voice. I can't stop listening to the taunts you've made. I like how he has an edge to his speech. Tonight, I'll try to find some more taunts. By the way, your avatar captures Joruus's power perfectly. What do the rest of you think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 awesome that you made some taunts....can't wait for this model...if you want me to be really picky then I'd say put more emotion into "And now I will kill you." Say it like you're kinda psycho.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamer Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 cool model! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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