Clem Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 this fight will neva be won cos the americans "know" theyre right about everything .... cos ... theyre americans edit: is there actually any proof of who commited the 11/9 attacks? cos i certainly havent heard of ne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datheus Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 Because we wanted cheaper tea? :| The men in charge of the revolution were NOT that yahoos with the guns... it was Jefferson... Franklin... Adams... and the such... They were well read, they spoke FIVE languages, they were the most civilized of their people... They would NEVER go to war with a juggernaught like ENGLAND over tea... That'd be like YOUR country taking AMERICA on because you think we're #######s... the Forefathers of America had JUST reason, that had to be the most IGNORANT comment I've ever heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 Originally posted by Mafia_Jabba lol ok it seems that you obviously dont know jack ####...so why bother anymore -its pretty hard to realize it when reading, smart ass, and not hearing something called a tone of voice. Try thinking a bit, it helps. Well tnx for the compliment, flamer. Guess the iq to mafia jabba and you can win a price! Hint: It is less than 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 Originally posted by Datheus Because we wanted cheaper tea? :| The men in charge of the revolution were NOT that yahoos with the guns... it was Jefferson... Franklin... Adams... and the such... They were well read, they spoke FIVE languages, they were the most civilized of their people... They would NEVER go to war with a juggernaught like ENGLAND over tea... That'd be like YOUR country taking AMERICA on because you think we're #######s... the Forefathers of America had JUST reason, that had to be the most IGNORANT comment I've ever heard This is pure facts: England had much tolls on wares they transported to US, but then US complained, and England removed all the tolls exept a small on one tea. But even that was too much for the americans, so they ravaged a load of tea from england, they tortured and hanged the innocent captain and laid the blame on indians. This was the beginning of this "revolution" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datheus Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 Well... this started as a civilized conversation about politics... but has some how deteriated into name calling and foolish accusations This has turned into ignorant shots at history using an interesting mixture of gossip you've collected from your peers and what you've seen on TV... very opinionated... and when things are opinionated... everyone's right, and everyone's wrong... it doesn't matter if you're American or not This thread should be closed, there's no going back now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 i dont think this or the guns thread have ne place here a forum with an average age of 17 - 20 isnt the place im gonna ask rhett to lock this and the guns thread cos theyve deteriated into name calling yeah ... ive been doing alot of it ... doesnt mean it should happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datheus Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 Honestly... the average age shouldn't matter... after all, 300 or so years ago we'd all be married with our own kids now... It's the average maturity that matters... which is low, (or it always seems to get low) unfortunately... But I supposed nothing can be done about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 Well, it was certanly not I who started it. About my post, you cannot deny that much of what i said was true. Example: The thing about canadians beating america not being in american history books, USA winning revolution because of french, US creating mass destruction weapons to kill lots of civillians, american massacreson civillians in Vietnam and much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 the problem this argument is a deadlock and hence has gone into name calling so i think we should just drop it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datheus Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 No, America can't deny actions like those... But which country can? No one is innocent -edit- Honestly, as an American... there are many things about America that disgusts me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 No, no one is complitely innocent, and this debate have now lost its meaning, it is pointless, and there is too much name calling. Go ahead and make it closed darth clem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia_Jabba Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 a #### i dont care anymore, its just our responsibility to make sure the future is right, right? Peace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Guess so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Jews are God's chosen people...and the Jews made a mistake, so they were punished...however, Jews are STILL God's chosen people, and in the end, Jesus will go back there and all of the Jews enemies that surround the area will die by...what SOUNDS like radiation, according to the effects of "it" in the Bible. All in all, I'm going to be on the Jews side no matter what. They win, I read the ending. I respect the Jews, and would NEVER insult or disrespect a Jew no matter what. If they have God's respect, they have mine. If I was in the military, and I was commanded to go against the Jews to kill them and became their enemy, I would refuse and go court marshel (Sp?) myself...period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datheus Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 a #### i dont care anymore, its just our responsibility to make sure the future is right, right? Peace? Ah... peace is not the question... it's how to get there... which is what this thread is all about... peace in the Middle East... which only sparked more hostility... Hm...go ponder that, lol That's why there will never be peace on earth, not until we ascend I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel onnected enough to step aside and weep like a widow. To feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human. With my feet upon the ground I lose myself between the sounds and open wide to suck it in, I feel it move across my skin. I'm reaching up and reaching out, I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me. And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been. We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been. Spiral out. Keep going, going... ~Tool (http://www.toolband.com) -edit- Jews are God's people?... According to WHO? The JEWS...heh That's the problem...religion involving monothiesm such as the current trend involving the bible and what not... tend to be... a disgused form of... arrogance ... for lack of a better word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia_Jabba Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Europeans will always think what they want of the Americans and vice versa. There is nothing that can change that so I guess we might as well kick ourselves in the ass, get over it, and have fun even though we haven't been lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjølen Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 I believe that we will not know what happens, hopefully peace. "Praying" to satan will not help but make things much worse Praying to God is good. Christ is the only thing that is out there that will save us. But WE CAN STOP THE WAR OURSELVES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 I still say live in canada, and you won't have to worry wiht such foolishness. Here's what I want to say: Make your opinions so that you do not flame anyone. Do not flame anyone on their opinions. Do not curse because someone thinks someone is a bully. My View on America- Nice place to live. Where else can you get hotdogs on a street corner? Or a ride in a bus to and from school? (other then the UK, mind you) Seriously, our views obviously have no effect what so ever on the government, cause they're gonna do what they want to do, so why should we argue about it? Do you know how many good poloticians there are? I can only think of maybe 3. I'm going to reply with an obi-wan quote now, She is a polotician, she's not to be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkum Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Yeah, the obiwan13 is right, most of these politicians are corrupted by their own status, they don't care about the good of the people, they care about themselves and outdoing the other political party. So who cares about the government? let them do what they wish, sooner or later they will realize their faults. Although, the Bush administration isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 The Bible says the Jews are. Go...read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb Starblazer Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Closing this thread definetly sounds like a good idea. No matter what everyone here says to everyone else, their own opinions will not change. The right to have an opinion exists everywhere, even in dictatorships(people just don't usually let out their opinions there). This thread, as have countless threads before it dealing with countries, has degenerated into a flame war. People of the U.S., sorry, but the U.S. has gotten a bad name for itself through the years for some of the things it's done and some of it's policies. Basically, (insert well used swear here) happens, that's the only explanation I can offer as to why people think of you that way. But please, at least try to understand other people's thoughts of you, and instead of just coming back with rude responses which is continuing to give America a bad name, just let it be. Or at least say something besides swearing, and degrading the other person's heriatage, please. I'm not trying to get involved in this, just asking you guys to be a little nicer to each other. If you wanna flame me go ahead. I'll post my thoughts on the situation with Israel, and pointedly ignore your attacks on myself. Thank you for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Originally posted by Kjølen I believe that we will not know what happens, hopefully peace. "Praying" to satan will not help but make things much worse Praying to God is good. Christ is the only thing that is out there that will save us. But WE CAN STOP THE WAR OURSELVES. Read the Bible. It explains what will happen...pretty spooky it's so close. All in all ...the anti-christ comes and DOES create world peace, but in the end, literally all hell breaks loose. Also, the enemies of Jerusalem (Sp?) gather together to destroy it, and they all die....simply put. That dome thing will also be re-built. This is going to be one interesting ride in the end...the four horsemen...armegeddon, spooky. We live in interesting times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebelwerfer_ Posted July 31, 2002 Author Share Posted July 31, 2002 Read the Bible. It explains what will happen...pretty spooky it's so close. you do understand that if we were ever to have peace talks with countries that are "not judeo christian" then we can never bring up bible stuff. How you would you feel if a muslim said said that the koran says that his prophecised "nation" was going to take over israel because allah said so. As long as people bring up religion and are close minded about these things, the fighting will never stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguelman Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Th conflict will never end, because the palestines/arabs can't share the same land with the jews...in 1922, the palestine was divided and 3/4 were reserved for the palestines (through a british mandate, for all students out there...), but no, they can't share with the enemy and now they're paying the price !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 the Palatines are the Philistines in the Bible...interesting, no? btw, I know they won't accept it, but hey, it's gonna happen anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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