Breton Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Originally posted by Camus It is high... Most statistics are made up... ~nods~ Accept it or not, it is the truth.
JandoFett1842 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn ...but it will happen much less often. Do you think someone would rob people by yelling "Give me your money, or I will run drive over you and poison your food!" Uh . . . have you ever herd of muggers using knifes and not guns? Knifes are just as effective!
Camus Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn ...but it will happen much less often. Do you think someone would rob people by yelling "Give me your money, or I will run drive over you and poison your food!" If you remove the gun... they will move from the use of the gun to other weapons... and a few will still get guns... and dont forget any thing can be used as a deadly weapon if its put in the right hands...
JandoFett1842 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 That is why do dont give a Shouu Linn Master a spoon!
Breton Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Originally posted by JandoFett1842 Uh . . . have you ever herd of muggers using knifes and not guns? Knifes are just as effective! Then why do they not use knifes? After all I know, they are much cheaper.
JrKASperov Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Taking away guns will make it safer, it will become harder to get guns, therefor, less people will have guns, therefor less shootings will occur. Having a gun to 'protect' oneself is plain stupit, you cant use a gun to stop other bullets, the only thing a gun will do is agitate the one pointing one at you already and make him shoot you out of agitation. BTW, is it THAT bad to lose your money once by being mugged instead of shooting to kill?
Camus Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn Then why do they not use knifes? After all I know, they are much cheaper. If I could ran up to someone with a knife... that person could pull out a gun and shoot me dead in my tracks... so those that shot first see it as I dont want them to have the chance... trust me... having a gun or a knife makes little diffrence when it comes to stealling mugging drive by shootings or any thing else like that...
Clem Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 a gun can kill from a distance ... the other person doesnt have to see u ... therefore they cannot react a knife makes u come close ... this takes more guts cowards can use guns ... u dont even have to look the other person in the face be4 u kill em guns are deadly ..... sure its the stupid person behind them that kills .... but theres no reason to give said stupid people ANOTHER way of killing people edit: also its easier to kill with a gun .... than nething else ... so they should be banned
Breton Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 JrKASperov is right, guns can not protect you, they will probably kill you instead (mugger pulls out gun, you pull out gun, mugger gets panicced and shoots).
-[MotU]-Lyger|=- Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 i think getting rid of guns will make me safe from war, cause getting rid of ALL guns will stop war permentily, cause what will they use? we'd go back to roman times and have those giant battles
Breton Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Then it would be cool battles with swords and bows and such. So lets all battle LOTR style!
Camus Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 ... ehem... You people forgot about bombs... I could make a pipe bomb out of house hold things... Which I hate to say this but... a gun is easy to kill with but a bomb can kill more people even easyer...
Clem Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Originally posted by Camus If I could ran up to someone with a knife... that person could pull out a gun and shoot me dead in my tracks... so those that shot first see it as I dont want them to have the chance... trust me... having a gun or a knife makes little diffrence when it comes to stealling mugging drive by shootings or any thing else like that... camus so ur saying ... i must have a gun ... cos sum1 else might have a gun thats a guns for guns sake argument VERY bad argument sure criminals will get guns ... thats no reason to make it easy for em thats like lining 1/2 ur army up on a hill to get shot .... cos theyre gonna get killed neway (1/2s a bit much but makes my point) edit: yeah camus bombs can kill ... THATS Y WE DONT GO AROUND GIVING THEM TO PEOPLE
Breton Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Originally posted by Camus ... ehem... You people forgot about bombs... I could make a pipe bomb out of house hold things... Which I hate to say this but... a gun is easy to kill with but a bomb can kill more people even easyer... Well, have you ever seen a mugger with grenade?
Breton Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Oklahoma...wasn't that a musical...."If I was a rich man....dubi dubi dubi dubi dubi dubi dubi da"...no don't think it was that one....i give up
Clem Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 i dont know nething about oklahoma much as u know nothing about somerset i live in the uk (and i have less chance of being shot cos of it)
Camus Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 If I wanted to... Note: "if" I could walk a block and get some army weapons... I could go to a gun show and get even more weapons like that...
ToppDog Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 It's better to have one & not need it, than to need one & not have it.
Clem Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 if they werent so easy to get the average law abiding person would be less likely to need it
Camus Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Clem if they werent so easy to get the average law abiding person would be less likely to need it true... I am a believer in gun liciening... I dont believe in removing all of them though... Just restriction on easy it is to get one...
Clem Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 theyre not banned in the uk (close but not completely) as far as i know .... u cant get a license for nething above a 0.22 calibre ... and nothing automatic bigger guns can however be used at licensed gun clubs correct me if im wrong
Breton Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Originally posted by ToppDog It's better to have one & not need it, than to need one & not have it. But the best is to not have one & not need it. If you have one it is more likely that you will need it (wich is not a good thing)
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