Meksilon Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Okay, first off WPA sucks arse, as do all the other PAs (such as the office 2000 activation). Yes I know WPA can be cracked, but I really couldn't be bothered. It's a step backward. Win XP had a few surpprises in store for me, there are a few annoying features (but I disabled most of them now), one which still stands is I can't make internet connections auto-connect. Then there's my DOS games such as Monkey Island and Monkey Island 2, which to my delight actually FULLY WORK win Win-XP. Obviously I'm yet to try all games, but so far XP has demonstrated that it has excellent compatability. I Still plan to duel-boot with DOS7.1 (only possible with a second HD, we have 2 40GB HDs, mum bought the new one because the old one ####ed up with a bad sector in the Format area). BUT to boot with it I only need io.sys and command.com (msdos.sys config.sys and autoexec.bat should also be included otherwise you have a very primitive boot). Win-XP tried to make me install using NTFS, oh it tried and tried and tried. But I over powered it and used FAT. Dosen't it understand I want to be able to use DOS? Simply hiding the FAT options from me aren't going to stop me manualy creating a partition and format on the disc! And finally, GOODBYE WIN ME, YOU SUCKED SO MUCH THAT I FEEL STUPID TO EVEN EVER CONCIDER INSTALLING YOU. I WILL NOT MISS YOU, NOR WILL I THINK ABOUT YOU. =mek= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Wow...er.......ok I shall make my points quickly and precisely: Dont get too excited about dos game compatability yet, no really. When you say fully work, I presume your not including sound in that. Dual booting with win98 maybe I can understand, but dos 7.1??? NTFS is far superior to fat, use it if you can, if you really want a little fat partition for dos, make one, xp will still see it. You can dual boot off the same drive if you want but you'll need the fat partition before the ntfs one. Im sure WinME is sobbing in a corner right now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabb Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 There's a very sucky feature in XP for preserving bandwidth, I recommend you check it out and disable it. There's programmes that will do it for you, but I dont remember what they are. As for DOS games, dont count your chickens. I had many problems with XP, and I found that 2000 was a lot faster, although I do miss my XP Windows Media Player. I love that thing I also think there's a problem with XP & EMI, but then again, who wants to play EMI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Yeah theres a registry key that needs changing but I cant remember it offhand either. I love XP but I should have pointed out before for its supposed 'compatability' have a look at the threads in the help forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RappScallion Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Originally posted by bgbennyboy When you say fully work, I presume your not including sound in that. Actually there's a pretty good freeware sound card emulator for Windows XP console. It emulates Soundblaster as well as Roland/General Midi and works perfectly with most of the old games, provided your machine is fast enough. You can get it here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vdmsound/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 I know only too well Rapp Just look in the help forum:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meksilon Posted August 4, 2002 Author Share Posted August 4, 2002 Does benny know what he's talking about? Originally posted by bgbennyboy Dont get too excited about dos game compatability yet, no really. When you say fully work, I presume your not including sound in that. Of course I'm including sound! In Win98 and WinME I couldn't play MI2 in Win with sound, and I couldn't play MI1-CD in DOS with music+sound effects (I had to play in windows). I couldn't play MI1-disk at all (integer divide by zero). Originally posted by bgbennyboy Dual booting with win98 maybe I can understand, but dos 7.1??? But I don't want windows, only dos, I have XP. Besides, I don't have a win 98 cd (anymore). Originally posted by bgbennyboy NTFS is far superior to fat, use it if you can, if you really want a little fat partition for dos, make one, xp will still see it. I'm not interested in NTFS, I want FAT because I'm a home user and because it's readable in DOS so I can make DOS system changes. AND DOS games/Win 16Bit Apps will work better under FAT. And I don't need NTFS security. Originally posted by bgbennyboy You can dual boot off the same drive if you want but you'll need the fat partition before the ntfs one. No.... that isn't possible only your primary partition is bootable. And since XP dosen't use io.sys it can't become duel-bootable. (Trust me, I even tried sys c: which required me fixing it with the XP CD). So in other words my system: PM - IDE-0 (40GB) (Win-XP) PS - IDE-1 (4GB) SM - IDE-2 (40GB) SS - CDROM goto BIOS set bootup as Floppy, IDE-2, IDE-0. Rename io.sys to something else on IDE-2 to boot into XP. =mek= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 Woah hold up there. Theres no way im getting into a tech-war here(similar, but marginally different to the William Shatner stuff of the same name, fact fans and crusading lawyers). I wasnt trying to be derogatory, just to make sure you dont count your chickens before their hatched(ie with things like the bandwidth issue which scabb pointed out). NTFS is faster than fat and a much more efficent filesystem in terms of the amount of space/clusters it uses. It can be a real pain to loose gigabytes of space to fat32 or have lots of partitions in order to minimise loss of space. Im not so sure that dos games/16 bit win aps will run better on fat32, they'll run better on a different os that uses fat32 if thats what you mean. It is possible to dual boot, use XP's boot menu (which you may not have seen yet if you only have xp on the drive). Start>run>msconfig>boot.ini Setup your os's there then just choose the one you want at startup, its a hell of a lot easier than renaming io.sys every time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meksilon Posted August 5, 2002 Author Share Posted August 5, 2002 Originally posted by bgbennyboy It is possible to dual boot, use XP's boot menu (which you may not have seen yet if you only have xp on the drive). Start>run>msconfig>boot.ini Setup your os's there then just choose the one you want at startup, its a hell of a lot easier than renaming io.sys every time! But I don't have an old OS installed... and what could be easier then a batch file called "Restart in DOS mode" Which renames and restarts... and another called "WIN" which renames and restarts? =mek= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummbuddy Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Hey Meksilon, Are you using any other programs to run those games on your XP? Did you have any trouble with playing them, like sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meksilon Posted August 14, 2002 Author Share Posted August 14, 2002 Originally posted by Scummbuddy Hey Meksilon, Are you using any other programs to run those games on your XP? Did you have any trouble with playing them, like sound? No, I have VMSound but I don't need to use it for MI1 or MI2. MI2 works with a normal shortcut, MI1 works so long as it's passed the parameter 'a' (for adlib) and the check box which says "close on exit" is cleared. This is based on the exe file from PC User (ie no copy protection). KQ5 (King's Quest V) CDROM version (and in fact many other Sierra games) needs a sound patch to run on ANY faster system, regardless of operating system. Sierra never released it, but there is a very good one which works available on the internet called GoSierra2. -Mek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmate Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 I installed Windows XP, and hated it so much that I went back to Windows ME, which really sucks, but works with my weird network card. I went back to good ole Windows 98 when I found drivers for the thing. I eventually discovered a magic thing called a boot disk, which I use for all my DOS games now. Can any Windows XP users try AkosView, and tell me if it looks correct? Apparently, there's a Windows XP-specific DirectDraw issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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