lukeiamyourdad Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 You have to think about the fact that 3d rts need good comp.In the future you will need an even better comp. Anyway, 3d rts are only for eye candy, you don't need that. It's always better to have an overall view of the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur2 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that was a funny one it requires good comp, no duh but then ppl buy new comps! if u really want to play games on crappy computers , then go play Starcraft or some DOS games... go upgrade ur comp this is called EVOLUTION look, all the new Strategy games use 3D engine is there any possiblity that SWGB 2 will still be 2D? uh...no unless Lucasarts has stupid marketting plan and u know wut? go play AoM and compare it AoK ok? stop making stupid statements until u've played some 3D strategy games 3D graphics is always better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Yeah! Developers should stop babysitting crappy comps and move on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 I agree. Face it, too play the latest games you've got to have the latest computer. It's as simple as that. Now I'm not made of money, but I have to say that keeping a game simple so it will work on an old computer is silly. Crazy Dog, just because the company is LUCASArts doesn't mean George Lucas personally approves everything that comes out. Pummels are definitely not canon, there is no question about it. Why? They aren't in the movies. That is the definition of canon: in the movies. Pummels were not in the movies, so pummels are not canon. Not every Star Wars fan likes the EU. I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again - I think EU pollutes the Star Wars Universe. Keep things the same as the movies, it works for other games, why not Star Wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 There could be a faint chance that pummels would be in Episode 3...? I mean look at Gungan air. Before AotC everyone thought it was some crap made up by LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Whoa people! I never said I wanted a 2d rts! I just said that it wasn't necessary(except for marketing). I'll enjoy a 2d SWGB 2 not that I want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur2 Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 check out AoM 3D engine, neat graphics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 It doesn't matter if it could be in Episode III, it is not in Episodes I, II, IV, V or VI so is not canon. If it is in Episode III it will be canon, but until then it is not. And I doubt it will be, because battles in Star Wars usually take place from range, with blasters, so that when the Jedi get out their lightsabres and go hand-to-hand its a bit more meaningful. And some Star Wars fans like me would have recognised the Gungan's air from early concepts for Cloud City as drawn by Ralph McQuarrie, sometime before 1980. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Well, at liest we sorted out the arguement about Gungan air. However, even though sea units have only appeared like 2 or 3 times in the movies, they MUST be canon. How else would the Trade Fed have attacked Otoh Gunga (Yes they could have used air but the good commander would use sea for such a mission). Also the Empire and Republic need to have sea units to keep order on worlds such as Naboo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Originally posted by Arthur2 check out AoM 3D engine, neat graphics Damn it! I never said I don't want a 3d RTS! I just said that it was not NECESSARY for ME to have a SWGB2 completely 3d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur2 Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad Damn it! I never said I don't want a 3d RTS! I just said that it was not NECESSARY for ME to have a SWGB2 completely 3d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well that means u can accept 3D, right? well anywayz we should focus on the project plans of Lucasarts' if lucas is gonna cut this project then there is no point discussing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadrixTF Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Well, i'm certainly NOT going to buy a new computer evertime a new game comes out - if it doesn't run on my computer - i won't buy it - simple. In my country computers are expensive and don't warrant upgrading more than once every 3 years. I run a PIII 550 with 128Mb RAM and a 16Mb Diamond Stealth card (i know it sounds pre-historic) and i can run all the applications and games that are important to me. This industry is always finding ways to keep us spending on hardware / software - but actually it is not neccessary at all. Example: Microsoft released Windows XP and yes, it is not as fast as it should be on my PC, so guess what? I use Windows 2000! It works just as well and i don't require a P4 with 512MB RAM, etc. btw, i even run 3D rendering applications and games on this "old" PC of mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur2 Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 eh well it's time to change right? it's been 3 years even my comp is aged almost 1 and half year already my comp is a P!!!-1Ghz, 512 RAM, and a crappy TNT2 well most of the time it's the TNT2 that's slowing down the game, when i play SWGB it lags sometimes cauz my video card only has 32 mb ram well i guess i'll upgrade my comp in probably another year i have another comp , 450 MhZ , aged 5 yrs urs should be aged sometime around that so yeah, actually u don't need to upgrade, u just need a better video card like i do 3D games don't require fast CPU and enormous amount of ram u just need a decent card, for example Geforce 3 is decent, and if u have a lot of cash, buy the new Radiant or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Not really. I have a AMD K-6 400 and it lags when I play SP at more than 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur2 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 aiyo don't worry ur next comp is gonna be 2200 MhZ + btw u gonna say "oh god gimme gimme giimme more 3D" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 Originally posted by Arthur2 aiyo don't worry ur next comp is gonna be 2200 MhZ + btw u gonna say "oh god gimme gimme giimme more 3D" Yeah of course:D ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 Well my comp is only Celeron 500, and it runs fine. Of course, it used to take about ten minutes to load a game in Jedi Outcast. However, if they brought out a GOOD 3D Star Wars RTS, I'd probably consider upgrading if I couldn't play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 Originally posted by Admiral Vostok Well my comp is only Celeron 500, and it runs fine. Of course, it used to take about ten minutes to load a game in Jedi Outcast. However, if they brought out a GOOD 3D Star Wars RTS, I'd probably consider upgrading if I couldn't play it. A 3D rts needs a very good comp. Even if they say you don't need much to play, you'll need a good one believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur2 Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad A 3D rts needs a very good comp. Even if they say you don't need much to play, you'll need a good one believe me. yeah well 500 MHz is good enuff, 256 m ram is good enuff the most important thing is ....ur video card if u have some crap like TNT2 and Savage 3D (these are the ones i have) u better buy some tyte card like Geforce 4, nForce, whatever... just something better than TNT2... most of the time the game laggs cauz the video card doesn't have enuff ram and speed to process ur graphics.... (yeah , ur video card does the graphics, that's why it's called a VIDEO card ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadrixTF Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Well, my Diamond Stealth 16MB Video Card handles 3D pretty well, maybe it is the design of the card rather than the VRAM - after all Diamond Stealth was designed for 3D Business apllications - but it handles great on games too! Nevertheless, i can see that i will have to upgrade next year - it will be reaching my 3 year limit soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur2 Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 well.... my comp is aged only 1.5 years well yeah maybe.... it depends on what kind of ram it is, too i just went and check the price Geforce 4 - 64 MB costs only 2600 NT --> about $70.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 I think today they sell old GeForce3 64 MB at less then that, but you mean $70.00 US right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur2 Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 yeah 70 us dollars Geforce 4 is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Yeah I know but there isn't a lot of differences between GeForce3 64MB and GeForce4 64MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Merkaba Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 have any of you played Deadlock? its a pretty outdated game but had a very good idea. you had a whole sh!t load of technologies and it took around three or so to build a specific unit. so some times you woulndt have all the units. the only thing that sucked a$$ was the fighting part. you hit attack and watched, you couldnt do anything. if lucus made a game around those ideas, where there were like 50 (just picking a number) units, and (again just picking a number) 300 technologies, and (bla bla bla) 40 different buildings, you would need 2 specific buildings, and three specific technoligies to create a unit. this would make the game more diverse and go deeper into the star wars universe. "how the hell do the blasters work? o, the laser crystal (?) focuses the beam" specific buildings have specific techs they can research. that and OH MY GOD!!! whats wrong with you people? you are all getting too specific with the units. "well, in EP 1 this happened, so, that means ONLY that can happen" if you were to hold the entire game to that then why do all the jets in the game hover? never once in the movie did i see a tie fighter hover, or a x-wing just chill in the air. in real life a super star destroyer couldnt enter the atmosphere. well, the game isnt real life, its a game, a universe made up by a man. how do you know that a star destroyer cant reach low orbit and fly around. have only jets able to attack it. that sounds reasonable doesnt it? anti air troopers cant send a shoulder mounted missile into low orbit. maybe have an upgrade that lets missile turrets shoot them down. same with the rebels, the mon calmaries do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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