Guest die rebel scum Posted September 11, 2001 Share Posted September 11, 2001 first off I would like to salute all those family and friends of those injured or killed in this trajedy and of course the people themselves. now to the subject do u think this act will result in a war. please give me your comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sherack Nhar Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 At first I thought it would result in a World War III. But at the time of that writing, I was still under the shock of the news. Now I've settled down and thought about it all as a whole. If it does result in a war, it will be a small one, because the enemy is only a terrorist group. Not a country, not a province, just a group. A group that hides away, and that hasn't been identified as of yet (to my knowledge). Still, even if the war itself will be small, the action that caused it is catastrophic, and could be viewed as an apocalypse for many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest die rebel scum Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 I think these people who r responsible for this act r cowards who kill and hide away, I think they should pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tie Guy Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 We find the people who did it, declare war on them, and then bomb the heck out of them. End of story, no world war 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xwing guy Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 yeah, we them and attack them from air and ground, and if possible by sea. Also all this points to Bin Laden, he is the one responsible I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Even if a country was responsible. I doubt any country would want to stand in our way of that country. They would know that America is going to devote all resources needed to take that country down. Also another reason why no country would protect them is they don't way thousands of people's blood on their hands to when they shake hands in that allaince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gamma732 Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Good point, fergie, but there are numerous countries that would love nothing more then the USA's destruction. They don't hate us because of politics or economy. They hate us because of our way of life and our social values. They won't care how much blood is on their hands if they believe it is their religious duty. Now, just because I say all that doesn't mean I think this'll end up as WWIII. All 'Dubya' jokes aside, Bush would not be that stupid as to instigate a war like that. No one in their right mind would. All the war talk we hear from him, is Bush showing his sympathey to all of us, because at one point or another, we all wanted a war or revenge. But, Juliani made a nice statement about this. He said basically, this attack was because of revenge and hatred. If we return this with more hatred and revenge, the cycle will only continue, and we will be as guilty as everyone else. I believe Bush will take a level headed approach and systematically search for the terrorists, rather then using a broad sword and bombing the Afghanistani countryside into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Originally posted by Gamma732 Good point, fergie, but there are numerous countries that would love nothing more then the USA's destruction. They don't hate us because of politics or economy. They hate us because of our way of life and our social values. They won't care how much blood is on their hands if they believe it is their religious duty. They don't even compare to our military. We don't have more than a regiment or two deployed into the middle East. Now just imagine a Division or Two. They would be even close to standing against our might. Most likely though it is a terrorist organization. If so we can send in Spec. Ops. (Green Beret or Navy Seals) to assasinate the leader and dissolve the organization. If Afganistan want to stand in our way we could blow them out of the water with a small flick of our military arm of power. Iraqi is the only country that MIGHT try and stop us and be more than a bump in the road. They would only be a big pathole in the road and our Tank/ military won't stumble over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gamma732 Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 If we tried to take a country down over there, I have a feeling China wouldn't really like that. Their a nuclear power and I don't think they especially like us. We can't just walk in and level the place, theres a lot of other stuff that can affect it. The initial countries may be relatively insignificant militarially, but there are other countries in the area that need to be thought of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Originally posted by Gamma732 If we tried to take a country down over there, I have a feeling China wouldn't really like that. Their a nuclear power and I don't think they especially like us. We can't just walk in and level the place, theres a lot of other stuff that can affect it. The initial countries may be relatively insignificant militarially, but there are other countries in the area that need to be thought of. They can just suck eggs:mad: If they do that we can just say...hmmmm...you must be sanctioning terrorist act...hmmm...UN doesn't sanction terrorist act so are you saying you are tring to cross the UN. Are you all for the deaths of Thousands of citizens of the United Staets??? If they say yes...I wonder what UN would say to an internal UN war??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kvan Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Originally posted by darthfergie They don't even compare to our military. We don't have more than a regiment or two deployed into the middle East. Now just imagine a Division or Two. They would be even close to standing against our might. Most likely though it is a terrorist organization. If so we can send in Spec. Ops. (Green Beret or Navy Seals) to assasinate the leader and dissolve the organization. If Afganistan want to stand in our way we could blow them out of the water with a small flick of our military arm of power. Iraqi is the only country that MIGHT try and stop us and be more than a bump in the road. They would only be a big pathole in the road and our Tank/ military won't stumble over that. Fergie the US can't assasinate people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest die rebel scum Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 If we tried to take a country down over there, I have a feeling China wouldn't really like that. Their a nuclear power and I don't think they especially like us. We can't just walk in and level the place, theres a lot of other stuff that can affect it. The initial countries may be relatively insignificant militarially, but there are other countries in the area that need to be thought of. China wouldn't dare stand in our way they know we r allready mad about the whole plane thing, but no country can rival the USA it is the ultimate place,but little sneak attacks like this can catch us off guard, but then we will jump on them and destroy them. So any countrys in that area would actually rather side with us since they know we will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crackercho Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 I don't think this is the begining of world war three because there is no massive conflict.And a massive conflict can be achieved only if two countries that have nuclear arsenal attack theirselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Worf Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 First off, China lost people in the World Trade Center. Second, you cant take out only their leader, if they believe its their religious duty, someone will just replace him. Also, anyone who is part of that group must have had some involvement with the attack and is guilty of warcrimes...they deserve everything they get. I believe the other middle eastern countries will support us because they know if we don't find out who did id then we will take them all out. Worf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young David Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Originally posted by Crackercho I don't think this is the begining of world war three because there is no massive conflict.And a massive conflict can be achieved only if two countries that have nuclear arsenal attack theirselves. Do you really think that is the only way? Or are you reading some thriller right now. There are enough reasons to start a war. Nuclear weapons are not neccesary for that. WWI and WWII didn't involve nuclear stuff ... They involved a world in war, that's what's needed to start a war. America, Isreal, Palastine and Afghanisthan are involved already ... It's not a war yet, but wich countries are gonna be next... If both China and Russia get involved too ... then we are in deep ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tie Guy Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Originally posted by Young David Do you really think that is the only way? Or are you reading some thriller right now. There are enough reasons to start a war. Nuclear weapons are not neccesary for that. WWI and WWII didn't involve nuclear stuff ... They involved a world in war, that's what's needed to start a war. America, Isreal, Palastine and Afghanisthan are involved already ... It's not a war yet, but wich countries are gonna be next... If both China and Russia get involved too ... then we are in deep ****. I think its more along the lines that we are extremely angry at them all right now. Still, Russia would be on our side in a World War at the moment. China may not like us, but i don't think they will stand up to the UN, not after they finally got the olympics. No, i think that this will be a personal dispute between us and the country/orginization involved. It won't involve other countries, and it shouldn't escelate even to the point of invasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young David Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Originally posted by Tie Guy No, i think that this will be a personal dispute between us and the country/orginization involved. It won't involve other countries, and it shouldn't escelate even to the point of invasion. "An attack on one of the members of NATO, is an attack on all of the members of NATO" .. that's what article 5 of one of NATO's somethings. So, if America will be in war ... the world will be in war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gamma732 Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Originally posted by Tie Guy I think its more along the lines that we are extremely angry at them all right now. Still, Russia would be on our side in a World War at the moment. China may not like us, but i don't think they will stand up to the UN, not after they finally got the olympics. No, i think that this will be a personal dispute between us and the country/orginization involved. It won't involve other countries, and it shouldn't escelate even to the point of invasion. I'm not sure how fervently Russia will come help us now. While they may help in relief efforts and they do have their own terrorist problems, a sizable amount of Russia's citizens are Muslims. I'm not saying that all Muslims are against Americans, I mean that the Russian leadership doesn't want to take any actions that may upset a large portion of their citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI_MASTA Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 ok first off if china gets pissed were doomed they launch yheir nukes and were toast im sorry to say this but taking out the leader wont work there will just b others to take over the job and i know alot of u guys are mad because they were civilian targers but thats what were going to have to do were going to have to hit civilian targets so the ppl get mad at the terrorists and stamp them out themselves were in no position to fight a religious war man if there capable of this just think what they are capable of in a war for their god man they would b powerful but i think we would prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gamma732 Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 You're right, just taking out the leaders will not work. If we just take out the leaders all we do is make them martyrs and increase the zealotry of their followers. If we are to take an action against these groups, we should take out the leaders, but we should not stop there. The only kind of response will have to be a complete one. Any terrorist or terrorist sympathizers must be hunted down, otherwise, the cells will only regroup and regrow. Our response must be comprehensive enough to let terrorists know that if they try something like this, they will be apprehended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI_MASTA Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 yeah and that they will b killed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rommel Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Yes, who ever did this deserves death... that may sound a bit over the top, but there were as many as 50,000 civilians in those towers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gamma732 Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Well, the CIA is probably already in action..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compa_Mighty Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 I think it was Irak... but there's nothing to prove it. At first, all pointed to World War III. But after hearing all presidents', ministers', etc. declarations... is the world vs the terrorists or the country... in won't be the huge scale everyone thought it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gamma732 Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Its definately not going to be a large scale 'war' as we have seen before. This is a war of ideologies. Iraq? I'm curious as to how you draw that conclusion, you're the first I've heard even mention them. I'm not bashing you or anything, I'm just interested in your logic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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