ArtifeX Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 ***UPDATE*** fileplanet.com now has Beta 2 available for download: http://www.fileplanet.com/dl/dl.asp?/3dactionplanet/jediknight/promod_beta_2.zip fileshack.com now has ProMod beta 2 available for download: http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=837 ***UPDATE*** ProMod Beta 2 is finished, and has been sent to both jkii.net and fileshack.com. The files should be available any time now. There's a HUGE list of changes, that you can check out at the official site, which I am now updating. Check it out: http://www.oculis.org/promod/ If you can't wait for the sluggish jkii.net files section to update, try logging into the official game server (ip in my sig below), which has autodownload enabled. There's quite a few people in there right now, actually. So what's changed? Tons. Here's an abbreviated, generalized list: - New Offensive/Defensive Bonus system and Bonus Meters in the HUD. - All movement now has an effect on your Combat Bonuses--watch your Meters as you move around. - Force Sight now has difficulty seeing higher levels of Mind Trick. - Force Sight's ability to dodge sniper fire is now dependent upon the Combat Strength Crosshair (CSC). - Saber Defense's ability to block sniper fire is now dependent on the CSC. - New console variables allow you to customize the ProMod HUD elements, including the color of the CSC. - All saber damages (including saber throw) have been increased by 50% versus anyone wielding a gun. - All private FFA duels end with the winner receiving 100 health and 25 shields. - All reported bugs from Beta 1 have been fixed. - Many more... There you have it. Enjoy, and as always, contact me with any comments or suggestions: arsartifex@msn.com I'll be updating this post with links as soon as i have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerowingzero Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 DOWNLOAD IT NOW. Right now. Seriously, why havent you downloaded it yet? why are you reading this and not downloading it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twins of Doom Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 why am i not downloading it...because i'm in pain and can only type with one hand.....i don't want blood on my keyboard here's what i said to my friend on msn because i'm too lazy to type it up again... "Ow says: andrew + i were returning a movie for mom + dad Ow says: down the hill where it's impossible to go slow Ow says: andrew slows down Ow says: i slow down because otherwise i'll hit andrew Ow says: i'm still going faster than andrew so i have to resort to the front break too.....owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Ow says: brake*" owwwwww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerowingzero Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 That's why you must wear biking gloves, and use seperate identies. ...Damn Twins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted September 2, 2002 Author Share Posted September 2, 2002 Ok guys, the file's available at fileshack.com now. Here's the link: http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=837 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiwan Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 I think your mod is great and am looking forward to future releases. I like the new defense/attack meters on the sides they add more dept to saber fighting. Maybe some food for though on future releases: Increase damage against a saber thrower. If his saber is out of his hand and a person strikes them it should take significant damage or kill with one shot. I don’t know if you implemented this in the newest version. Here’s something more for looks of the game (a pet peeve of mine) when the character is running he always has his saber over to his side whether it is forward/back or side to side. It just looks to me as if he can’t block anything holding a saber like this. Is there any way that the model can hold the stance of the swing while running, I think this would add a nice look/feel to the game (Just a thought). Overall if you didn’t release any more I would be totally happy. Random saber swing just doesn’t work against a skilled/timed person with this mod, thank goodness for you. Bringing back the essence of JediKnight. JediKnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrEEk_OuTcAsT Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Great work Artifex. You have saved JK2 Multiplayer. But I don't understand how the 2 indicators on the screen work. In your site you don't explain a lot about them. Looking for more servers. Especially European ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted September 2, 2002 Author Share Posted September 2, 2002 Good thought on the saber throwers taking more damage. Expect that to be in Beta 3. I'm updating the site to explain the new bonus meters in-depth. Check back sometime later today for a detailed discussion of some all the major features of promod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangina_Rouge Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Great work ......tested it yesterday on your server and it s different from promod 1 .......i will not say it s good or bad since it s not necessarily a bad thing to adapt Only thing i found maybe too much is Red stance footspeed being faster since u can chain it and it was good in promod 1 for people who knew actually HOW to use it ...but need to test it further By the way your server was unavailable yesterday while we were playing with some ppl and it s still down ......hope it will back soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted September 2, 2002 Author Share Posted September 2, 2002 Yeah, the official game server's down right now because ILAN dropped the ball, apparently. I can't get any of the admin stuff to work right now, and nobody from ILAN has returned any of my emails. It'll hopefully come back online soon. I'll post when it does. Originally posted by Orangina_Rouge Great work ......tested it yesterday on your server and it s different from promod 1 .......i will not say it s good or bad since it s not necessarily a bad thing to adapt Only thing i found maybe too much is Red stance footspeed being faster since u can chain it and it was good in promod 1 for people who knew actually HOW to use it ...but need to test it further By the way your server was unavailable yesterday while we were playing with some ppl and it s still down ......hope it will back soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikus_aurelius Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 I reallly like way that the attack bonus goes up as you fall on someone. However, it seems almost impossible to connect before you hit the ground. Maybe you should consider having the falling bonus stick around for a quarter of a second after you land. Or maybe I should quit whining and learn to time it better also, is damage tied to the attack meter or just chance to penetrate defenses? I assume its not, but i could swear I had some one hit kills last night walking foreward in red stance. All in all, love the mod. Thanks a ton artifex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Blackrose Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 While I do like the new attack/defensive bonuses, why do I feel I am in a Department of Defense designed fighter jet all of a sudden? Soon we will have a HUD for everything. I especially love the gunner balance. Sure, I just light up Dark Rage and fire away with the E11 or repeater while picking off everyone, but when I take a slash, that HURTS. Also, I noticed that the chances of pulling guns have increased according to distance. If we get the chance, I would like to test the new sniper/FS relationship on the server Arti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerowingzero Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Yeah about that dodgeing, i didnt know that it was always on, that is a much better inprovement from the old system of having to activate it, but from what i've read you never mentioned it in your readme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psionic Jedi Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Er just came back from a session on your server (did horrible by the way, medium is no longer uber-leet ) and someone named Bizarre turned it into a 30 frag duel... Everyone got pissed and left. Also is it just me or does a bunny hopper have the advantage in terms of bonus? It seems to pierce defenses alot more... I killed someone by hopping up, taking a lunge in the gut and swinging at their head with medium stance, and it killed them instantly. I was left still with alot of hp... We need a documentation on the new bonus meters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangina_Rouge Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Originally posted by Psionic Jedi Er just came back from a session on your server (did horrible by the way, medium is no longer uber-leet ) and someone named Bizarre turned it into a 30 frag duel... Everyone got pissed and left. I confirm this .....also there is still problems with server And tell your buddies of ASC to calm down, i dunno what s the relationship between Bizzarre and Rad but it s not by being @$$ to ppl that the mod will get success ......It s a good mod and need more servers, not ppl ruining the fun out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyplaya73 Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 It sounds good. I'll be putting it up on my server soon to try it out. Can you have multiple private duels at the same time in the FFA gametype with Promod? All private FFA duels end with the winner receiving 100 health and 25 shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Blackrose Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Simple, there is no relationship between Bizarro and I. However, I don't appreciate you calling people n00bs, then also using certain moves over and over again (take the hint: lightning spamming as well as overusing pull/Saber Throw puts you on my ****list automatically). The reason why the server was changed to a 30 frag duel was because people callvoted the gametype to ffa, which upon sucessful vote makes the fraglimit 20. Someone must have callvoted fraglimit 30. However, it seems they did not callvote map_restart. That was the main problem. Also, it is still noted that there is no map cycle. I thought that was fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Blackrose Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Originally posted by crazyplaya73 It sounds good. I'll be putting it up on my server soon to try it out. Can you have multiple private duels at the same time in the FFA gametype with Promod? Well, I remember Vex "talking" to me for a bit while I was dueling someone, so I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangina_Rouge Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 I don't appreciate you calling people n00bs Then next time waste Bizzarre head plez or better TAKE IT easy ......using force is not a crime man especially when all others ppl are using it I don t care for myself since i m grown up enough to not be bothered by such attitude but what bizzarre did is just what this mod don t need .........lamers pissing everyone ( and u can ask everyone there he was a master at it ) when they are in fact sore losers ( thus the name noob .....wich he loved to call other with when u were not online ) there is not much servers( and no others with beta 2 for now ), so if this server ( and worst : mod ) get a bad rep we all lose and Artifex will lose even more since he invested time into this U answering to bizzarre calls was just approving his acts ( and i asked to other ppl after u left ...they just thinked the same way ) wich hurts this growing community So next time plez calm down .... to end this up : u don t know me, i ve never been on OEF or some server u ve been so no need to get mad at me ......my name is just a popular drink with some funny ads where i live : it would be not surprising if someone else would use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikus_aurelius Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 speaking of throw/pull: is there a way to take this out? While it is counterable, it doesn't really make any sense. It certainly gets the award for cheapest move in JK right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted September 3, 2002 Author Share Posted September 3, 2002 Originally posted by mikus_aurelius I reallly like way that the attack bonus goes up as you fall on someone. However, it seems almost impossible to connect before you hit the ground. Maybe you should consider having the falling bonus stick around for a quarter of a second after you land. Or maybe I should quit whining and learn to time it better also, is damage tied to the attack meter or just chance to penetrate defenses? I assume its not, but i could swear I had some one hit kills last night walking foreward in red stance. All in all, love the mod. Thanks a ton artifex. I wouldn't want to turn saber fighting into a hopping match by emphasizing the jump offensive bonus too much. Sorry. You might try doing the DFA off of a cliff into a group of people though. hehehehe. One hit kills are possible with red stance, but only with the downwards chop swing. It's just intrinsic to the way the animations work that that swing can hit twice if you keep the saber inside their body long enough. Still, that's pretty difficult to do. The damage done varies only by where in your swing you connect, the bonuses only affect you ability to hit them. Connecting in the exact middle of the swing will do the most damage. Glad you like the mod. Spread the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted September 3, 2002 Author Share Posted September 3, 2002 Originally posted by Rad Blackrose If we get the chance, I would like to test the new sniper/FS relationship on the server Arti. Sure, np. I've done quite a bit of testing on it, and it works great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted September 3, 2002 Author Share Posted September 3, 2002 Originally posted by Psionic Jedi Er just came back from a session on your server (did horrible by the way, medium is no longer uber-leet ) and someone named Bizarre turned it into a 30 frag duel... Everyone got pissed and left. Also is it just me or does a bunny hopper have the advantage in terms of bonus? It seems to pierce defenses alot more... I killed someone by hopping up, taking a lunge in the gut and swinging at their head with medium stance, and it killed them instantly. I was left still with alot of hp... We need a documentation on the new bonus meters Don't worry, the advantage gained from a normal jump is very slight. Each one of the "ticks" you see in the meter is one point of bonus, which ends up being about 2 or 3 degrees of aiming arc. What was happening is that you were suprising your opponent with a jump, and he was still aiming below you when you hit him. That gave you enough of a combat advantage to break his defenses. Remember, damage is unaffected by the bonus meters. I'll be putting up a complete guide to the CSC and the Bonus meters today. And fixing what seems to be a page formatting error in IE5.5 and IE6.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted September 3, 2002 Author Share Posted September 3, 2002 If anyone's being an ass on my server, they're going to get booted if I, or one of my admins sees it. Might get banned if they keep it up too. Originally posted by Orangina_Rouge I confirm this .....also there is still problems with server And tell your buddies of ASC to calm down, i dunno what s the relationship between Bizzarre and Rad but it s not by being @$$ to ppl that the mod will get success ......It s a good mod and need more servers, not ppl ruining the fun out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted September 3, 2002 Author Share Posted September 3, 2002 Originally posted by mikus_aurelius speaking of throw/pull: is there a way to take this out? While it is counterable, it doesn't really make any sense. It certainly gets the award for cheapest move in JK right now. If someone's constantly Saber Throw/Pulling you, then just duck. You're completely immune to Pull while ducked--you won't even do the counter-pull animation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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