Lord Helmet Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 Are beta Testers allowed to say that they are one...without giving away anything from the beta....?I just haven't actaully seena nyone say they were...i would just like to know if we have any beta testers with us here...wish i was.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 Don't know if it's 'illegal' for them to say they are beta testers, but the smart ones will prolly keep quiet. For obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murashu Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Like Jan said, the smart ones will refrain from letting everyone know they are testers to avoid the mass questions. I do believe the devs posted before stating it is not against the NDA to announce your beta testing status. They leave that up to the testers but I haven't seen one come forward yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I have, a few(1 or 2), but I have my doubts. Oh, Moraj Markinnison was one (for those who knew him or of him, the guy over at the Station with the T-Shirts), but was unfortunatly killed in a car accident, God rest his soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murashu Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Good call, I never knew him but I heard about the accident. Very sad event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 uhmmm Beta guys are allowed to tell they are IN the beta. they are NOT allowed to TELL ANYTHING about the beta. If they do and the devs find out... your out. thats the rule... so people who are in the beta just say nothing so they cant talk their mouth away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Haha, made some digging, and found the thread again. This is what Kevin "Q-3PO" O'Hare had to say about how serious they consider NDA violations to be: Link to relevant thread: About NDA Violations Just to let you know, we take all violations of the NDA very seriously. All information we find on potential violations will be handed over to our legal department. Now many of you (including fan site owners) are obviously not legally bound to the NDA if you haven't signed it. We appeciate you not amplifying any violations by posting unapproved beta information or screenshots. Those people who do help spread the violations will likely hurt their chances to participate in beta (or their relationship with us in the case of fan sites). Please do not ask for links to violations on these forums. Those posts will be closed. Thanks, Kevin O'Hara Community Relations Manager Notice the word in bold and italic text. Appearantly, it would almost seem that it was necessary to say this, and this was from Sunday almost 2 weeks ago. Have some of the beta testers not understood what the NDA means? Or comprehended the consequences if it was breached? Wouldn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murashu Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 Yes, there was an incident where some unauthorized screenshots made it to a website, but they were able to lay the smack down upon them pretty fast. Sony and Lucasarts are 2 big name companies that can afford much better lawyers than most of us combined so I wouldnt go messing around with NDA violations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dengar Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 i know one beta tester, a mate of mine who locks the doors and draws the curtains before testing, little paranoid maybe, but i dont ask him about the game (even though i REALLY want to), and i know he wouldnt tell me even if i did . My friend wont reveal that he is a tester on forums simply because he cannot, and indeed would not, tell anyone anything about the game, and doesnt want to be bugged by people wanting to know insider stuff. For the benefit of all, i believe its best not to speculate who is or isnt testing. As Jan and Murashu rightly pointed out, the beta tests are very well guarded, and the NDA is binding. Suffice to say i trust that the best people for the job have been selected, and eagerly await the finished product (unless im lucky enuff to get in Beta3, but then you will never know ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted November 30, 2002 Author Share Posted November 30, 2002 my brother is one.... :) :) just wanted to,know...can't be too careful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murashu Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 Whether you sign a NDA or not, we will all be beta testers. With games like this we are always finding bugs or exploits and reporting it up and they will be patching weekly if not daily for a while. There is no way all the bugs will be found by the time we get the game so sit back and relax and you too will have a shot at testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 Yes, and for those who never beta tested a game in their life, such as myself, that will be a fine experience you can take with you till the time you become a beta tester. My friend wont reveal that he is a tester on forums simply because he cannot, and indeed would not, tell anyone anything about the game, and doesnt want to be bugged by people wanting to know insider stuff. Like I said, the smart ones will keep quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omne Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 Personally, if I was a beta tester, I'd be very selective with who I told....if anyone at all. Imagine being bombarded with questions and comments from people 24/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted December 4, 2002 Author Share Posted December 4, 2002 i think your overexagerating there....alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omne Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 Sadly, we're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 Nope, Lord Helmut, no exagerations. Tru story, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Jedi Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 I signed up for it and i HOPE i get accepted i wanna try it out SO bad im seriously serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omne Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Yeah....we all want to try it out very badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thew Rydur Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Originally posted by Hellfire Jedi I signed up for it and i HOPE i get accepted i wanna try it out SO bad im seriously serious If my memory serves me correctly people under 18 won't get in the beta test so I wouldn't get your hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted December 5, 2002 Author Share Posted December 5, 2002 just lie about your age then duhhhhhhhhhhh heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascari Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 I dont know how they check your age, but they are sure to check it, or else the NDA wouldn't apply.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omne Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Very true. A minor can't sign any sort of contract without a parent/legan guardian there as well. If a minor was accepted, signed the NDA, then broke it...nothing could be done to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascari Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Thats why they are sure to check your age... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dengar Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 Originally posted by Omne Very true. A minor can't sign any sort of contract without a parent/legan guardian there as well. If a minor was accepted, signed the NDA, then broke it...nothing could be done to them. You have to remember that this game is INTERNATIONAL not only US based. Several counrties DO NOT distinguish between minor and adult for the purposes of legal contracts. However, if the contract requires the participant to be of a certain age and the signee lies about their age, then legal action can be taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted December 8, 2002 Author Share Posted December 8, 2002 that is totally false and just made everyone more stupid on the subject....a minor can not sign away their own rights...in america...it just "sux for the company" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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