Andy867 Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 But when Vader pissed off Luke, you saw how much fury was in Luke's eyes. Not even Maul could withstand a barrage of attacks like that, just like he was too stupid to let up his guard when Obi-wan turned one Darth Maul into two...D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 But when Vader pissed off Luke, you saw how much fury was in Luke's eyes. Not even Maul could withstand a barrage of attacks like that What?! Luke was leaving himself completely open through that barrage! If Vader had wanted to, he could have cut Luke in half, but he didn't want to--Maul would not have hesitated! There's no way in the depths of the firey inferno that Luke could have beat Maul as of RotJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Gee, Maul had no problem hesitating with obi-wan jumping out of the pit. A true fighter would have gone after obi-wan the minute he jumped up out of the pit. hence the reason why Luke, in the end, would be victorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlancer Posted January 24, 2003 Author Share Posted January 24, 2003 8 to 9!!!??? I can't believe what I'm seeing! Please people, let go of your love for the old characters and, without emotion, just watch the fights. Watch how Darth Maul deals with a master and an apprentice at once, then watch how Luke fights. Darth Maul's hits are each timed to the beat, precise and perfectly accurate. Luke barely defends himself against someone who isn't even trying to kill him! People, forget how cool certain characters, *cough*luke*cough* are and focus on the skill of the two before you vote. If you still think that Luke is honestly better, well that's your opinion and I respect that. Peace out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikusho Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 your right, the only reason Vader didn't cleave Luke in half is because that was his son! and I know you're saying 'well duh' but If you were fighting to the death with your son would you let him have just a little bit of leeway if you loved him? that's how Luke beat daddykins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiMP RABBiT Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Remember look all most killed vader on Bespin, and as Vader is meant to be the master of all things dark and forcy, surely he could take out some punk with an unfortunate birthmark on his face. And anyway, the fact that Maul was dead before Luke was born might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rive Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 ratmjedi said: Darth Maul would win with out a doubt. I mean Maul was trained most of his life. His devotion to the Sith order was immence. I mean he got all his tattoos because of his Sith devotion. Nononononononononono. Darth Maul is a member of the Zabrak race, and it is part of their tradition that they tattoo their entire bodies as they grow up. His devotion to the Sith arts has nothing to do with this, even though if he wasn't a Sith Apprentice, he would still have looked like one evil b*stard... I don't actually know who to vote for, to be honest. Like Thrakan Solo says, Luke does have an extensive knowledge of the force, and can anticipate the actions of anyone attacking him, but still, he was nowhere near fast enough to take Maul on. He could have let the force guide his movements, but even then... Aaaaaaaaargh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Originally posted by Darth_Rive Nononononononononono. Darth Maul is a member of the Zabrak race, and it is part of their tradition that they tattoo their entire bodies as they grow up. His devotion to the Sith arts has nothing to do with this, even though if he wasn't a Sith Apprentice, he would still have looked like one evil b*stard... I don't actually know who to vote for, to be honest. Like Thrakan Solo says, Luke does have an extensive knowledge of the force, and can anticipate the actions of anyone attacking him, but still, he was nowhere near fast enough to take Maul on. He could have let the force guide his movements, but even then... Aaaaaaaaargh! Not true. Eth Koth is a Jedi of Maul's race. He has NO tatoos. Ratmjedi is right. And yes, Maul would definetly win. Obi was also falling to the Dark side when he killed Maul. Wouldn't you though, if your master had died? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Well, tattoos in general are common among that of the Zabrak, but according to my research, Maul was in fact sporting those of sith-specific tattoos. However, also according to my research, Eth Koth does in fact have tattoos, but they are more of a general, and not so appealing as designs of that of Maul. Koths tattoos are of a more traditional, and significantly less startling design. [/Quote] That is cited from my source which lays out some detail about the Zabrak Species. So, but in terms of skill, I believe that just like Obi-wan, Luke would prevail because of Maul's overconfidence, which he apparently achieved through his training under Sidious, as we all know, is overly confident, which is his downfall, hence Maul's downfall as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notion Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 No one could beat TPM obi-wan, and that's why Maul lost. Not b/c of over confidence. Luke knew basically nothing of the force except entry level stuff. THAT'S overconfidence. Maul would easily flip over Luke then chop his oh so vulnerable head off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Originally posted by Notion No one could beat TPM obi-wan, and that's why Maul lost. Well, Maul actually won the saber duel, Obi-Wan really killed Maul after the duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted January 27, 2003 Share Posted January 27, 2003 I voted Luke. Obvious reasons. He is a Jedi Master (EU), Maul is a Sith Lord. *** Forgot to add he defeated Vader and turned him to the light, in turn saving the galaxy... ***** Check this out!!! Katarn07 NRI Jedi Mercenary Registered: Oct 2002 Location: Barons Hed, Sulon Posts: 1138 Points: 50 ^^^ 50 points and a post count of 1138!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlancer Posted January 28, 2003 Author Share Posted January 28, 2003 Last time I'm gonna say it. WE ARE NOT REFURRING TO ANYTHING INVOLVING EU. THIS IS AROUND THE TIME LUKE WAS ON THE SKIFF AT JABBA'S PALACE I'm not gonna say this again. If you think Luke, that's cool. He was a great character who fought well. Just don't go around talking about him as a jedi master. He wasn't even a knight yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 but if you move just a little ahead of time into the Second Death Star scenes, you will realize that Luke has become better aquainted with the Force, and a much better fighter. By the time Palpatine is about to be destroyed, he deemed Luke as being a Jedi; "So be it... Jedi" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rive Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Not necessarily, Andy867. In the speech Luke gave right before that, he said, "I am a Jedi, like my father before me," to which the Emperor replies, "So be it... Jedi," and proceeds to electrocute him, as you do... He was mocking him. He knew that, yes, he was powerful, but he was not yet a Jedi, as though he had no idea of what the concept of the word "Jedi" even meant. And with Kenobi and Yoda gone, Luke was the last known trained light-side force user in the galaxy, so as far as the Emperor knew, there was no-one around to train him, so he pretty much assumed that he had been trained to a certain extent, but no further, hence his distinct lack of Force use against Vader - no pushing, no throwing things at him to slow him down, no speed-up, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlancer Posted January 29, 2003 Author Share Posted January 29, 2003 I'm not sure, but didn't Yoda tell Luke that he would only be a jedi if he confronted and defeated Vader? "Then, only then, a jedi will you be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikusho Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 and the fact that sending ROTJ Luke against Maul would be like sending TPM Anakin against Maul. He'd get slaughtered like a new batch of KFC chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiMP RABBiT Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Remember Luke is the son of the Jedi/Sith with the highest midicloriant count (or however you youngens spell it) so he must be pretty powerful. And he was hesitant against darth because of all the 'Strike me down with it and your journey to the darkside will be complete' and he had the oportunity to kill Vader (the best Sith ever) in that fight so he'd whoop Maul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegietto Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 i think luke would die easily against darth maul because he couldn't possibly be a darth maul at his prime atleast i don't think he could Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 Maul pwnz!!!!!! Surprised this was such a close call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Talliusc Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 luke anytime after ROTJ would smoke maul. but esb and before... one dead farmboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurryKing Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 Luke because the will of the force would be with him plus he defeated the mighty Vader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbeth2k1 Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Maul. Hands down. Force or no force, the dark side has its own will and would be on Mauls side, so lets ignore "the Force would be with Luke." Luke just didn't have advanced skills with the saber. Sure he could fight well enough to stand up to vader. To defeat Vader (ignoring weather Vader did or didn't want to win) he was just wailing on him like his saber was a baseball bat. Even I could have done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largo-LaGrande Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 The only reason why people think Maul could beat Skywalker is becouse the Acters wernt as good back then when they redo the luke skywalker bits i bet he'll be real quick and could beat darth maul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Lets see... Maul was trained in the force, the sith arts and saber skills from a powerful sith master since he was young. Luke got a chrash course from a little green dude. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out, should it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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