Tarkin above Vader?

[StormHammer]

I think it just boils down to military etiquette.

 

I mean, Tarkin is basically the Captain of his Ship...and because the vessel is under his command, he calls all the shots on board, and his word is law. Vader is little more than a visitor, really, and has no military rank in ANH. So technically, I would say that aboard the Death Star, Tarkin outranks Vader.

 

Off the Death Star of course...well, I wouldn't want to be in Tarkin's shoes.

[CurryKing]

I read somewhere apparently GL explanation of that situation was that Vader was second only to the Emporer but the Tarkin was in charge of the Death Star and Vader was instructed to do as he said while on it, so Vader was sort of humouring him i suppose.

 

Also apparently GL makes all this stuff up as he is going along so in ANH maybe origionally vader was a henchman of Tarkin (as the Emporer is only mentioned for a second and not really a part in the film) but then in the ESB & ROTJ he decided to develop the Emporer more and also make Vaders character a more powerful and important figure. GL only expected to make one Star Wars film due to the fact it was expected to be a complete failiure, hmm which idiot said that!!

[Jan Gaarni]

GL did, didn't he?

 

Atleast he had never dreamed about it taking off this much.

[CurryKing]

Oh no i have called the great man an idiot!! Please forgive me!!

 

Yeah i don't think anyone would have anticipated the Star Wars movies having an impact like they did, the sad thing is GL has sadi that there will be NO more Star Wars movies in his lifetime.

[benTantilles]

ok...im not sure if this's been said already (this thread IS real long ), but basically, at the time of ANH, TARKIN DID OUTRANK VADER in almost every respect. vader was merely one of palpatine's several pawns whom the emperor was shaping up to be his right hand...but he wasn't his right hand yet. more like an apperentice to whom others (eg. tarkin) were superior.

by the time of the ESB, vader had secured his position as the Emperor's right hand. this was facilitated by a combination of factors- among which is the loss of imperial talent thanx to skywalker's twin torpedoes (there were a LOT of imperial geniuses-grand admirals & moffs alike- onboard the Death Star at that particular moment. their death created a power vacuum which vader filled). the chief factor was, of course, vader's advancement thru the Force. he was a much more capable force practiotioner and leader during ESB than he was at ANH. none of the admirals in ESB had the ballz to confront vader as that guy did with the Force issue on the death star.

[Macbeth2k1]

I've always thought of Vader's role in the empire as similar to the Jedi's role in the Repbulic. They hold no official office and therefore no rank, everyone outranks them. But they are official embassidors. They're given authority over the military in the scope of their particular mission.

 

If you want to, check out the first 4 issues of Dark Horse's Star Wars Empire comic, and you'll see what I mean. The Emperor gives Vader a mission and authority over a Star Destroyer and its crew to fulfill it. The ship still has its captain who is in control of the ship, but he goes where Vader tells him to go. All his underlings obay the Captains orders, not Vaders (except they usually come from Vader).

 

So yah, when Vader is messing with one of Tarkin's men, he has every right to tell him to knock it off.

[dark jedi 8]

so he can have power over tarkin when the emperor wants him to. so it depends on the situation whether vader is held in higher regard as far as rank goes, compared to tarkin. it makes sense.