Al-back from the BigWhoop Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 saddam did cooperate with the inspectors most of the time, but hid some. And how did the US know it? because they armed saddam. And Saddam was always a blood thristy tiran since the US put him on charge. therefore, I can assure u the US ddnt start the war to save civillians (but probably to get oil). btw, mek, i dunno wot newspapaer u r reading, but its all over the new in here that most brittish are still against war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meksilon Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Deadmeat your reply was pretty ignorant. I never said I agree with war, only the objectives: to disarm Iraq and to remove Saddam from power. It was on the news Al, um maybe a day or two before the war actually started that margionally more of the public is for war. It's very close, but it shows Blair has argued very well. I do beleive Bush is a mussle-head, but hey I'm just hoping this will be a short war and that his objectives are forfilled. This is the mark of Meksilon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 bombing in the middle of the night is pretty gutless IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenW Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 No, Meksilon, most English are not in favour of going to war. Thats why several opinion polls have shown most are against it, and several MP's are threatening to quit over disagreements about going to war. That is why over 100, 000 people are heading in to london today to hold a peace protest. That is why students have been holding walkouts at schools and university's round the country in protest about the war. Considering i actually live in England, and I am English, I think I am more aware of what is going on in my own country than you are. Please get your facts right if you are going to report how the general public are feeling in a country that you do not live in. It annoys me to think the world probably hate the English for going to war, when war is not wanted by most people in England. The rest of the world is judging us based on the actions of our prime minister. I guess the same pretty much goes for Americans. They are judged on the basis of their leader being a dumb idiot, we are judged based on our leader being the dumb idiots puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 that's because the leadersd aren't only there to run the country, but to represent the country. our country is our leader so that makes ity worse. england doesn't want to go to war, Tony Blair does. Tony Blair is a single english person, there are about 100, 000 people in London alone rallying against the war and more in other parts of England. Northampton, where me and Helen live, had an entire secondary school leave in the middle of the day to Protest against the war on thursday. granted this may have just been a way to get out of school for a lot of them, but most of the genuinly wanted to stop the war (also granted, a single school isn't going to do this, but every little bit helps). for more info on how much England "wants" this war to happen, go here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/photo_gallery/2869217.stm (the BBC website, obviously has the best information on england's current state) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Eggplant Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 I have to agree with Natty bombing in the middle of the night is guttless however.... using advanced satelities from miles and miles in space, and using B52 spy bombers which spy ...er... I mean acurately topographically map all of Iraq and then allow missles to fly under the radar so they can be totally undetected and deliver blows of mass destruction on an unssupecting enemy. well if Saddam did that it would be evil, but if we do it, we are just showing the kindly Iraqi people how much we love them (and their oil) and yes Saddam is evil because he places government offices and military comand centers inside a city with civilians whom could be injured if and when a war breaks out yes that is evil,.... BUT and now ladies and gentleman look out your window as your tour of lovely Washington DC continues.... on your left you can see the White House that's where the President of America lives. it is a central part of our govenment. (it's not a palace like some presidents live in Saddam) but we give it a fresh coat of white paint every year and it looks okay...now the tour continues over there you can see Congreess, and theres the Senate and oh well a whole bunch of neat monuments and lots of other important governemt buildings,,, and looky there the Pentagon the absolute Military Instilation in our nation all built here inside Washington DC a lovely picturesque city in which CIVILIANS come to tour daily and CIVILAINS AND GOVERNMENT CLERICAL workers and hotdog salesman and tailors and street walkers and all other kind of innocent people work and live and walk their dogs. yes Saddam is evil because he places military and government buildings inside Iraq. We Americans are not evil, we have done the same because it is efficent, honest, and logical, and lets not forget Patriotic. yes bombing two buildings with commercial planes is a very bad thing, but launching planes and missiles from ships and subs well outside the area of conflict ; also putting other people in danger cause what happens if one of those cruise missiles go haywire and bomb say France by acccident? then it would be too bad and just a casualty of war. yes it is good to know we are on the winning side, when 911 happened the Emmys and the Toronto film festival were all canceled it seemed wrong to hold award shows amidst the pain and suffering and seriousness of rubble and mass distruction. But hey lets all hold the oscars in the middle of the afternoon california time, show it on TV at night; (and meanwhile amidst all the hoopla and glintz guess what? another 1,500 smart bombs in the middle of the middle eastern night just pounded the Iraqi's again. FOR ALL INDIGNANT AMERCIANS OUT THERE, LISTEN AND LEARN. YOUR PEOPLE HAD PROBLEMS SO YOU FAUGHT A WAR OF INDEPENDANCE FROM BRITIAN. if the Iraqi people are being oppressed, let them do the same. there are more poor Iraqi people in Bagdad then there are ruthless dictators. and don't think it's silly. Washington did the impossible in the middle of the night with simple farmers against paid hardened mercineries. so did France so did many other places. Australia is a nation state and continent. it was not always so. have an opinion and watch the news but remember Truth is a three sided blade; your side, their side, and what really is happening and none of us really are going to see the last opion. because it does make for good TV ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmeat_X Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Originally posted by Suuri Yksl deadmeat_x, war isn't wrong if you're defending democracy and killing a leader that has access to chemical and biological weapons and can terrorize another country. A leader that has acces to those kind of weapons...terrorize other countires if he wants...I don't know, but this sounds an awful lot like Mr. Bush to me... And democracy, hah. If there's one country that violated what democracy once stood for, it's the USA. Sad but true... And Mek you may call me ignorant but al least I'm not a blown up freak like you that ends all his posts with the completely useless and idle sentence: "this is the mark of Mek". Sad. Like you're compensating for something. This is not the mark of Meksilon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 and also, those same chamicals can be used for medical purposes and (more likely) for use with oil. oh, and byu the way, in half about fifty years time, or however long it takes when we've fully run out of oil on this planet, lets look back and see what a lot of innocent people died for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoLuigi... Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 :mad: i'm beginning to dislike this thread... it's becoming too much like one of those political debates, and those are really creepy. maybe i dunno what im talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 if you don't like the thread, you don't have to read it or reply to it, it's not a requirement in order to stay on the forums you know. i personally don't like the subject of this thread, but i think it is a very important subject to talk about at the moment. with all of the action in baghdad and so on, it's not as if we can escape it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Originally posted by Deadmeat_X Something I just across... Am I the only one that found this to be quite funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al-back from the BigWhoop Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 yeah, i found it funny too. btw, looks like the United Nations is gonna have the same end as the League of the Nations. Will some1 ever get it right? i really dont know, since i dont know wot could b done to make that kind of organization more powerfull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodin Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 That is one hilarious picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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