StormHammer Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by Blademaster_109 I was looking at all the saber staff pics and the problem is that they only swing with one hand. it looks stupid having there other had lay by there side "dead". What do u guys think. Yes, you're absolutely right. All of the pictures released so far show the dual-staff only being held in one hand. While we don't know yet exactly what all of the moves, and therefore animations or hand-positions might be, I do think the weapon needs a two-handed grip for certain moves. After all, this is how Darth Maul fought with his signature blades, going from simgle-handed to double-handed grip depending on the blocks and attacks he was performing. Well spotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blademaster_109 Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 all of them. go to http://www.jk2files.com/file.stuff?body=academy#screenshots look at all of the saber staffs. its horrible. thank u stormhammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break_dF Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by Emon Sorry, I wasn't aware I was in the forum with people that make totally irrelevant, ignorant and unbased comments because they can't backup their argument. sorry for my "unbaseness"... ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blademaster_109 Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 i was wrong, there is one pic where he is defending himself and using 2 hands to hold the light saber here is the link http://www.gamingfiles.com/screenshots/7/others/academy_005.jpg This one i'm not to sure about http://www.gamingfiles.com/screenshots/7/others/academy_003.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by Break_dF sorry for my "unbaseness"... ha. Thank you for proving my point by noting that I made a minor spelling error. Your grammer isn't the greatest either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by Blademaster_109 i was wrong, there is one pic where he is defending himself and using 2 hands to hold the light saber here is the link http://www.gamingfiles.com/screenshots/7/others/academy_005.jpg Well, it looks like it could be, although it's not very clear because of the bright flash. Anyway, well spotted again. Emon and Break_dF...if you want to snipe at each other, please take it to PMs and keep this thread on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by Break_dF and 0 time beta-testing it... Just about every piece of software gets beta tested. Originally posted by Break_dF They're not going to do any external testing... Most software houses never do. It is rarely a controlled environment, and it takes much longer to get all the relavent information. That's why there are professional game testers. And they aren't just guys who "play games". The reason why something like Galaxies gets a public beta testing is because there is no way for the software company (can't remember who is making it right now) to simulate the tens of thousands of people that would be playing at once. If they could, there would be no open test. The open beta is not mainly to find gameplay issues, but to find problems that pop up when the number of players get into the thousands. Since JA will likely have no more than a few dozen or so players at a time, there is no need for them to have an open beta test. They can handle everything internally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break_dF Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Prime .. please. The dozens? Professional gamers? Give me a break. Have you played anything other than jko? Seriously? On a competitive level? They aren't beta testing for, I'm sure, "good" in-house reasons. But, let's not forget jko and the royal ****-up that the gameplay was. A few testers can not conclude what the gameplay will be like by spending 15 minutes in an ffa server. Why are you taking up for a company that obviously hasn't delivered in the past? I don't want a ****ty game people, jesus h.w. christ... all I want is a ****ing demo or an open beta where players like myself (who spend more time than the so-called professionals actually testing game mechanics) will be given a shot at it. And emon, please grow the **** up. Posting "unbaseness" had nothing to do with your spelling... damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by Break_dF Prime .. please. The dozens? That's right. What is the maximum number of players that can play on a JO server at one given time? Is it not in the dozens? Originally posted by Break_dF Professional gamers? Give me a break. Not profession gamers. Professional testers. There is, of course, a big difference. Originally posted by Break_dF They aren't beta testing for, I'm sure, "good" in-house reasons. I have no idea what this means. What classifies as "good" reasons for you? Originally posted by Break_dF But, let's not forget jko and the royal ****-up that the gameplay was. Actually, the gameplay of 1.02 wasn't particularly bad. There were some bugs certainly, but the gameplay didn't go completely down the crapper until 1.03. Originally posted by Break_dF A few testers can not conclude what the gameplay will be like by spending 15 minutes in an ffa server. 15 minutes More like months, and sometimes years. Testers spend the better part of their daily lives testing these things. I'm starting to get the impression you know very little about software development. Which, of course, not everyboy does. Originally posted by Break_dF Why are you taking up for a company that obviously hasn't delivered in the past? I am not trying to stick up for Raven per se. They did make some mistakes with JO. I was only trying to show why Raven likely didn't have a public beta. However, I do try and "talk up", as you put it, the software industry because many make claims and complaints while not knowing how things usually work in that industry of which I am a part. Originally posted by Break_dF I don't want a ****ty game people, jesus h.w. christ... all I want is a ****ing demo or an open beta where players like myself (who spend more time than the so-called professionals actually testing game mechanics) will be given a shot at it. That is the attitude that brought us the glory that is patch 1.03. Raven tryed to accomidate as many wildly varying opinions as possible. I have no doubt you have many opinions on what JO should be, but you'll forgive me if I would rather trust professional testers. Although you obviously play a lot of games, I sort of doubt you spend as much time as those who do testing for a living. P.S. The above is not in defense of Raven. There were certain problems that should have been caught. But in the software industry, this does not always happen for various reasons (management decisions, budgets, time constraints, resources). A lot of times known bugs are left in knowing that there will be a patch. In any case, an open beta is not the answer to these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 So did you guys happen to miss StormHammer's warning? It's now time to take your argument to pm's. Break_dF, I suggest you start changing your attitude a bit....the other two seemed to be able to present their aguments without the langauge and the insults.....you should take note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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