Solbe M'ko Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 Am I crazy, or can you dodge smiper shots in SP? I noticed on NS that sometimes your character seems to move out of the way using speed for just a moment. Is there some trick to this, or does it just happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightsaberboy Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 ive had it happen to me before. i didnt know how, and it was whacky. i think it used up half my force too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man_with_saber Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 I noticed it in Bespin. Just happens, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Fisher Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 Yeah, thats happened to me before too. Kinda weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbe M'ko Posted May 11, 2003 Author Share Posted May 11, 2003 I toyed around on NS for a while and concluded that there is likely some combo that makes you dodge snipers. It seems to happen if you crouch/move back and to the side just as the sniper fires. I may be wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
//[DerDochs]\\ Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 No, it does just do it. If you just stand there, and there are snipers shooting at you, it will just keep doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 What version of the game are you playing? Because in the PC version (even with the patch) this never seems to happen (since you don't get Seeing in Single Player). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Templar. Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Kyle is a wannabe Neo from the matrix.. I'd like to see them fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 I'd like to see someone double post. Hey look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man_with_saber Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 As you may remember Kurgan, I'm on the Xbox. Judging from previous posts, I'm almost certain that SamFisher, Lightsaberboy, Solbe M'ko, and //[DerDochs]\\ are on the PC though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 since you don't get Seeing in Single Player erm u do, its a always on power, thats y u can dodge sniper bullets because kyle has now seeing check the forcestring cvar (cant remember the name) there IS seeing in SP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbe M'ko Posted May 13, 2003 Author Share Posted May 13, 2003 Very perceptive, Man with Saber. You should go be a spy for Microsoft. Anyway, I'm just wondering if anyone else thinks it's not random. If you don't know what I'm talking about and think I'm on crack (you're right?), play the NS map where theres a whole buncha rodian snipers and just stand in one spot where they can hit you and move around a little. Kyle should dodge some of the shots. I don't know if it works with cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToppDog Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 I think it works better if he's facing in the direction it is coming from, but it's been forever since I played SP. Using the set forceall5 cheat would probably make it pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man_with_saber Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Micro$oft's spies are built in to the software. ;] It hasn't been mentioned in this thread, but I noticed two distinct types of sniper dodge. One where he speeded up(with the force speed sound) and moved out of the way. And also one where he twisted like the Rebones do to avoid being hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 The simple solution to this is probably that the Xbox (and probably Gamecube as well) versions of JK2, due to the added difficulty of trying to control Kyle with a gamepad, have put in a form of "auto dodge" which acts similar to Level 3 seeing into single player. The PC version has NO SEEING in single player. Not even with cheats! I've played that level many times, and never dodged a single shot (been sniped by disruptor fire hundreds of times though). The developers probably felt it was too hard, so they tweaked it for the home version. I actually own the Xbox version (press copy) but I lack an actual Xbox console, so I can't test it (sadly no places in the area rent Xboxes). But I assure you, unless its some new mod I haven't heard about, the PC version has no such power. I even tried what some suggested, using Speed, with the saber out, etc... no dodging, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbe M'ko Posted May 17, 2003 Author Share Posted May 17, 2003 Try it on an easier difficulty. I went back and replayed the game on hard the other day and I couldn't dodge. Try easy or medium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 Well, if u noticed in SP. when hit by sniper shot, u will see kyle auto dogde and the force speed will automaticly turn on for less than 5 SEC. tThis means that you have been hit by the sniper shot. But when you get hit by sniper shot and kyle auto dogde and if force speed does not turn on, it means that u have succsesfuly dogde the sniper shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Try it on an easier difficulty. I went back and replayed the game on hard the other day and I couldn't dodge. Try easy or medium. I played through the game on medium already and didn't notice it... not even once. I'll try what you suggested and warp there on easy with full force to see if it ever happens, but somehow I doubt it. I won't say you're wrong until I try it though... ; ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 It looks like ONly NPC Jedi con dogde by jumping or normal dogde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 You may be right.. I'm about to test it myself, this time on easy difficulty, and giving myself all the force powers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Update: I have been proven wrong! I tested ns_streets with the setforceall 3 cheat on easy difficulty, and the force "power" works as described.... Not always, but often enough not to be a bug, when you're fired upon by a disruptor shot you "dodge" it just like the NPC Jedi do, and it automatically uses up a bunch of your mana blocks. It makes the sound like Force Speed and slows you down for a split second while it has your body "bend" to dodge the shot. This makes that (frustrating) level infinitely easier since they won't kill you with every shot (like on Jedi Knight difficulty). It's a shame they couldn't have just given you Force Seeing or allowed you to block the shots with your lightsaber like how it works in MP, but oh well. So I learned something new, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbe M'ko Posted May 26, 2003 Author Share Posted May 26, 2003 Heres a tip for killing Reborn with the disruptor: SHOOT THEM IN THE GROIN! It actually works! For some reason if you shoot around the shnuts/beltbuckle they won't dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man_with_saber Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Originally posted by Solbe M'ko Heres a tip for killing Reborn with the disruptor: SHOOT THEM IN THE GROIN! It actually works! For some reason if you shoot around the shnuts/beltbuckle they won't dodge. If I remember right, this doesn't work on all Reborn (at least on the Xbox.) Which ones have you tried it on? I remember it working on the first one of the game, but not the second. And the only other one I remember trying it on and having it work was the one between the spinning things o' death in Cairn Reactor. This trick also seems to work in MP on the box to overcome the seeing dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Very hard to use sniper on jedi but can kill them with charged up shot and f-speed. ( i once melted dessan with sniper before) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoM[Chrono] Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 How come Reborn don't run out of force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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