endo Posted May 30, 2003 Share Posted May 30, 2003 dont you fear that your mod might get foxed by lucas art? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runner08 Posted May 30, 2003 Share Posted May 30, 2003 what do you mean by this? If you are dissing the moderators then this is going to get ugly StormHammer is not one to mess with but welcome to lucasforums I am kinda new also a/s/l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endo Posted May 30, 2003 Author Share Posted May 30, 2003 nah dont mean to diss anyone. foxing means that the mod might get, errrm, stopped by lucas art because it uses their intellectual property, breaks their copyright and stuff like that. FOX Interactive used this on some games/mods who wanted to create something based on their movies. and since then the term "foxing" stuck. most prominent examples i know of is the "Generations" mod for quake 2 and a Duke Nukem mod for q3 or UT. oh hi why 53/male/kasachztan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted May 30, 2003 Share Posted May 30, 2003 Please type in correct coherent English the both of you (I'm not being bossy or rude its just hard to read and) anyway welcome anyway, but no this MOD won't be foxed, there was an April Fools joke about it and that was the close it got. This MOD doesn't violate any of the LEC copyright laws or the liscence agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endo Posted May 30, 2003 Author Share Posted May 30, 2003 ah ok the problem with Generations was that they used alot of content from the original games (converted quake 1 models to q2) but this darkforces mod seems to create all the content themselves im awfully sorry that my english dissrupts your reading flow, but thats the best it will get, so you better get used to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted May 30, 2003 Share Posted May 30, 2003 Count_Dooku - he's not English, so give him a break Also, there is always the danger that this project may get the chop. It is small, but it is still there none the less. We have gotten thus far without any LEC interference, so we have come to the conclusion they are fine with it. We are a pretty big MOD, so they are no doubt aware of our existance. But they are perfectly within their rights to fox us if they wish. Let's just hope it never happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey S Posted May 30, 2003 Share Posted May 30, 2003 If LEC would want to 'fox' the DF mod, then there isn't really anything that could stop them. But as far as I can tell the team is trying to do everything to make this as small a possibility as they can by making all the textures themselves, and not lifting any files directly from Dark Forces. But as The_One said, if LEC would ever have wanted to shut the project down they could (and probably would) have done so a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapSlash Posted May 30, 2003 Share Posted May 30, 2003 While there always is the possibility of getting shut down I feel it's rather remote. I've noticed in the past that Lucas is rather lenient on the fans in their expressions of love for the Star Wars universe. The only times I can remember them coming down on anyone was when someone was trying to make a quick buck off of it. And as far as I'm aware, we still aren't getting paid, 'cause I'm as broke as ever,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted May 30, 2003 Share Posted May 30, 2003 Originally posted by The_One Count_Dooku - he's not English, so give him a break Also, there is always the danger that this project may get the chop. It is small, but it is still there none the less. We have gotten thus far without any LEC interference, so we have come to the conclusion they are fine with it. We are a pretty big MOD, so they are no doubt aware of our existance. But they are perfectly within their rights to fox us if they wish. Let's just hope it never happens. Sorry I never took that into consideration, I keep thinking this place is full of people from ol' blighty and the US. However if they were to fox it, I suppose you could still going on aslong if you said oh yeah the Daark Foorces MOOD or something like BFP did. I love Star Wars MODs though it potentially gives everyone the chance to be George Lucas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted May 31, 2003 Share Posted May 31, 2003 Changing the name would do nothing. We are clearly using their intellectual property: sounds, concepts, story, level design and script. They could fox us in an instance if they wanted, and we couldn't do jack about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted May 31, 2003 Share Posted May 31, 2003 Yeah, they're all right. But that gave you no right to pull that April 1st crap over on us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted May 31, 2003 Share Posted May 31, 2003 Originally posted by Katarn07 Yeah, they're all right. But that gave you no right to pull that April 1st crap over on us I had the skills, I had the time, I had ftp access, I had a cruel idea, it was April 1st and I'm British. What kind of explanation were you hoping for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_CL Posted May 31, 2003 Share Posted May 31, 2003 That is true about fox foxing means that the mod might get, errrm, stopped by lucas art because it uses their intellectual property, breaks their copyright and stuff like that posted by endo.well goodluck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endo Posted June 1, 2003 Author Share Posted June 1, 2003 Originally posted by The_One I had the skills, I had the time, I had ftp access, I had a cruel idea, it was April 1st and I'm British. What kind of explanation were you hoping for? ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Ahhhh British Humor, I consider it a mental disability if you can't understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Originally posted by Darth Tyranus Ahhhh British Humor, I consider it a mental disability if you can't understand it. Well said BTW, nice avatar (Very much interested in Russian history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 Originally posted by The_One Well said BTW, nice avatar (Very much interested in Russian history) Thanks British humor is the highest form of wit, Thank you its nice finally someone said something nice about my avatar (it has caused some contraversy in the swamp) I think Russian history is fascinating, I've got an exam on the Cold War in a few days, too bad I was unable to pursue more Russian History, perhaps at Univeristy I may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbe M'ko Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 I really can't understand "foxing". If a group of people love a game/franchise/whatever enough to spend time making a mod, then put it out on the internet for all to see (thus promoting/advertising it) why the HELL would the owner get mad? Free ad space+complement=Lawsuit? That's stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracman Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 It's not just this. Companies pay a lot for coders, designers, modellers and texturers. Then they want to protect their inventions and intellectual properties. Sure, they can't do everything right for everyone. Therefore here and there, the community starts to ask for addon's and in the past few years also more and more for game development kits. I remember asking for such thing for Rogue Squadron, but there was no answer at all, no SDK, although I really like flying around through canyons and fighting TIEs with an A-Wing You know, LEC never released the SDK for JO, it was Raven... The modding community is tolerated by LEC and other large game companies that simply use existing game engines. The companies that create game engines, like Id, on the other hand, want to spread their product. To make levels with GTK etc. is one thing, but we even modifiy the code, use DF design and textures as template, we (re-)create a complete game, this is totally different!!! If LEC had planned to release a newer version of DF one day, they sure would have stopped our project long time ago. Since they did not and also tolerate all the other mods, that help selling the official games, we are pretty confident! Heh... following the example of G. Lucas himself, LEC could make a prequel game where you play Kyle as child, something like the "Adventures of the Young Katarn" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CortoCG Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 No more updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 I actually liked Bounty Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracman Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 heh... at the time it came out, i even liked SotE, even if its graphics were too simplistic. but it was a nice arcade style game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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