daring dueler Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 It had been thaught and even written for years that boba fett was indeed a man jamed jaster mareel, now that that has been disproven, whjo is jaster mereel? accoriding to the new essential to charactors, he was jangos mentor, and gave his armor to the young boba shortly after he left geonosis in the slave 1. If this is true , will we see any more of boba than killing mace windu, will we see the moments of getting armor, im not sure, i like boba fett, and wanto to see what ive read, yet there is a level of mystery i dont want gone, and seeing him in ep 2 was a little weird for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerAir1587249581 Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 George Lucas confirmed that boba will have a very MINOR role so he is not gonna kill windu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheat Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 yeah i couldnt see like a 13 year old kid kill this bad ass jedi master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan13 Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Originally posted by TheCheat yeah i couldnt see like a 13 year old kid kill this bad ass jedi master unless its like a cheap shot like throwin a bunch of thermal detonators at him.....or shooting him from behind whiles hes dueling someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheat Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 well that would just be a stupid way for mace to die i mean he has to have a glorious death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 The long and short of it is: Jaster Mereel does not exist as a part of the SW canon. He is a defunct creation of the EU. More likely than not, Boba stripped his dead father of his armor after we leave the arena. And it would be nice to see Anakin beat the spit out of Mace, disarm him (literally), and leave the death-blow to little Boba. Seems like something Anakin would do. And my money says Boba uses a disintigration rifle, hence the infamous line: "No disintegrations!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daring dueler Posted June 24, 2003 Author Share Posted June 24, 2003 Originally posted by Jedi_Monk The long and short of it is: Jaster Mereel does not exist as a part of the SW canon. He is a defunct creation of the EU. More likely than not, Boba stripped his dead father of his armor after we leave the arena. And it would be nice to see Anakin beat the spit out of Mace, disarm him (literally), and leave the death-blow to little Boba. Seems like something Anakin would do. And my money says Boba uses a disintigration rifle, hence the infamous line: "No disintegrations!" well, you must not like eu then, all eu is part of star wars, and that info is in the new essential to charactors, and is a real part of eu, hes not a creation especially not defunct, he has a story,plus he may have jangos armor, buts that not what hes wearing. the crest and the sculls on the armor give that away since when jaster died hi victor mounted his armor and put thise signs on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Yes, I have read Jango and Boba's sections of the New Essencial Guide to Characters. I must say, I find it humorous how the EU scrambles to keep itself in continuity. In Jaster's case, he was originally supposed to be a Journeyman Protector who was shamed and so donned the Mandalorian armor and took the name Boba Fett. Then, when it comes out in the canon (the movies) that Boba Fett's real name is Boba Fett, the EU twists itself so that now it was only a LEGEND that Boba and Jaster were the same! Nevermind that, as I remember it, Boba Fett and Jaster Mereel's connection was established via Boba's flashback in Tales of the Bounty Hunter. Either way, the EU has proven itself uncanonical, either by being completely defunct or by only reporting legends and rumors of the canonical universe. No, Jaster Mereel has gone the way of the Cu'unthor and Bevel Lemelisk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbeth2k1 Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Officially, the only material that is cannon are the movies, radio dramas, and the novilizations of the movies. In that order. Everything else isn't cannon. Period. However, Lucas Licensing is taking great pains to keep the EU in continuity. But, officially, its not official. As much as that may rub fans the wrong way ("well I read in this book that..."), thats just the way it is. We should just be happy we've got as much EU as we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daring dueler Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 i dont see how you came to the cucnlusion of that, but eu is still good stories, and as it does fall into its place, jaster has the same story, exile for killing a fellow officer.the story of jaster and his armor still fits into place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbeth2k1 Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Canon includes the screenplays, the films, the radio dramas and the novelisations. These works spin out of George Lucas' original stories, the rest are written by other writers. The entire catalog of published works comprises a vast history -- with many off-shoots, variations and tangents -- like any other well-developed mythology. Therefore the films and their adaptations are canon, meaning that they take precedence in essentially all matters. Any other form of unfilmed STAR WARS fiction may be official, meaning that it is subordinate to canon and is required to be consistent with other official works. Works which do not have the blessing of Lucasfilm Ltd (which is not the same entity as LucasArts) are unofficial and cannot be given consideration. The Boba Fett/Jaster issue isn't the first. The old comic strips were so bad they contradicted not only the movies but themselves as well. Basicly the movies are right, and the EU authors are invited to fit into that continuity as best they can. If they make an assumption that is later proved different in a film, its up to them to fudge their information to fit. I have an idea, lets send the question to Ask the Jedi Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daring dueler Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 ok then, ummm, well, there is actually a council on star wars.com that will answer just these type of questions.seriously, want me to send it for the hell of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheat Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 send the question, the suspence is killing me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 but eu is still good stories, and as it does fall into its place, jaster has the same story, exile for killing a fellow officer.the story of jaster and his armor still fits into place Dueler, read Fett's story, Last Man Standing in Tales of the Bounty Hunter, and you'll see just how out of continuity Jaster Mereel really is. It's very explicit in that story that Jaster Mereel is Boba Fett, not his mentor, not a friend, but someone who actually took the name Boba Fett after he was expelled from Concord Dawn. It's all well and good that the Essencial Guide to Characters can take that out of context and just say, "Oh, that was just a rumor," but it doesn't change the fact that the story where the "rumor" began has been completely contradicted. Also, while the novelizations and the radio dramas are closer to canonical than anything in the EU, they are still inconsistant with the movies. For instance, in the Return of the Jedi novelization, we have Obi-Wan telling Luke that Owen is actually Obi-Wan's brother. And there're a few contradictions in the radio drama as well, though the only one that jumps into my head right now is that in Docking Bay 94, Han is confronted by one of Jabba's partners and not by Jabba himself (as shown in the ANH:SE). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daring dueler Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 ive read that book, and bounty hunter tails, which says the same thing, but since we klnow hes not, the other story is one we must beleive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheat Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 The Cheats memory database... Boba Fett is Jaster Mereel - BALEETED! Jaster Mereel was Jango Fetts mentor - SAVED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbeth2k1 Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Yah, please do send the question to SW.com. Also, in the Jango Fett: Open Seasons GN from Dark Horse, Jaster is the leader of the Mandalorians when he 'rescues' Jango as a boy when his parents are killed. Jango is added to the army and eventually replaces Jaster when he is killed by a traitor. So, the EU is doing its best to fix the Jaster problem, but you can't just UNDO old books. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheat Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 they could always discontinue those books to prevent more people from being confused and we would be able to sell our copies on ebay in a few years to make lots of money:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Yah, please do send the question to SW.com. Blah... if you're gonna Ask the Jedi Council, ask Steve Sansweet because Jocasta Nu will just give you the EU answer they could always discontinue those books to prevent more people from being confused and we would be able to sell our copies on ebay in a few years to make lots of money I agree with Cheat completely! Papa needs a college education! Anyway... at least the books with the most screwed up continuity should be discontinued. I believe several SW books have been taken out of print in the past for that. I've heard shadows of rumors of published SW novels that sound like the Dark Empire series, but aren't. Anyone here wise (or old) enough to shed some light on the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleto4_ryan Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 boba fett want be involved much in the third? oh well he had a huge role in 2 and made him one of my best chars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaNothing Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 IMO Boba sucked in Episode II. The kid could not act, and even though he wasn't in it much, it was too much! I think it would be better not seeing Boba in episode III at all, but the only reason he is there most prob is because the Kaminoans still need DNA samples, and because they can't take them from Jango they use the next best thing, an unaltered clone of Jango - Boba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleto4_ryan Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Originally posted by OmegaNothing is because the Kaminoans still need DNA samples, and because they can't take them from Jango they use the next best thing, an unaltered clone of Jango - Boba. yep that looks true... I believe Boba gained a char in episode 2....in the classics he was just a hunter. I didn't even felt him as something special...But now he has a tragic history that explains his characters model. (seeing his father being decapitated is one of the reasons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaNothing Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 I want to kno what happens to stormtroopers, I'm assuming their clones too but they suck, the clones were much better, and also I'm positive the empire recruited Stormtroopers too. I suppose its like the Russian army, large but poorly trained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daring dueler Posted June 29, 2003 Author Share Posted June 29, 2003 sansweet? hes a collector(he has my respect) but i wouldnt ask him that question. but the stormtrooers cant be clones(or can they) because there is an acedemy to become one, lets head to eu again , wasnt katarn in the acedemy and even was a stormtrooper, and hes no clone. also, if they are name less clones just by number, explain davin felth, they cant be clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Mr. Sansweet has devoted his life to Star Wars. Yes, he collects, but he collects because he's a fan, just like us... he just has a lot more experience and a lot more connections than any of us do! The man knows George Lucas, for Forssakes! but the stormtrooers cant be clones(or can they) because there is an acedemy to become one, lets head to eu again , wasnt katarn in the acedemy and even was a stormtrooper, and hes no clone. also, if they are name less clones just by number, explain davin felth, they cant be clones. I'll explain it this way: Kyle Katarn and Davin Felth are both EU, and the EU has absolutely no bearing on the canonical Star Wars universe. There is an Imperial Academy. In ANH, Luke laments that his uncle won't let him get off Tatooine to go to it. But this is the Naval Academy. You don't go there to become Stormtroopers. In the words of Chris Cerasi, from Lucasbooks: When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves - and only the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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