MasterNe0 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Love the Program. However, im having a problem with the goodevil rating. When I give everyone 100% Good for all the NPC characters: (Visas, Atton, Kriea, Handmaiden, Bao-Lur, and t3-m4). I picked 2 characters (like atton and Visas) and they become good, then i switch the two with (bao-lur and handmaiden) and their evil. Anyway to make them all good 100% the savegame keep reseting them back to 0 after i load it if i changed them all. (never knew Atton was a Sith zombie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted February 16, 2005 Author Share Posted February 16, 2005 Well okay I'll check that too. Man, who knew TSL would cause so many ripples in KSE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianhou_Zhong Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 TK, why don't you make the editor display the item name insted the item code, it will be much easier to add new items. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted February 16, 2005 Author Share Posted February 16, 2005 It does -- just scroll the item list to the right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daebryn Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I've notice that the game won't register name changes. You can use KSE to change your character's name, and it will show up as the new name, but everyone in the game will still refer to you as the old name. Also, <FullName> items won't register the name change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinkers Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 i think the game is buggy when it comes to alignment. not the editors fault. happen to me all the time. i get more light side points and atton became EVIL. but when i reloaded he was back to good. the good/ evil rating is bugged and same goes for the inventory. i get pretty anal when my items don't stack but tk, damn are you a fast worker. you're the obiwan to all of us p/s- if you could somehow make the inventory to accept typing for better yet some way to max out the items that would be even better. been creating lots of upgrade items and grenades for my guys thanks again for giving us so much, to talk rant about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennaida Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 doinkers, there's a Jedi Class with a feat/abil (forget which) that causes people opposite you to move further opposite, sure you don't have that? and more to the point... TK, there's a bug in KSE seemingly with Handmaiden and levelling. If you try to lower her level, it won't acknowledge it, even after it says it saved successfully. *tries to remove the class and has it freeze, tries to remove guardian and readd soldier* Hmm. Error message on deleating/readding a class: Can't call method "get_field_ix_By_label" on unblessed refrence at kotor_savegame_editor3.0.0.pl line 2047. Details of Error: TK callback for .button TK::__ANON__ at /PerlApp/Tk.pm line 247 TK::Button::butUp at /PerlApp/Tk/Button.pm line 111 <ButtonRelease-1> (command bound to event) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted February 16, 2005 Author Share Posted February 16, 2005 @Daebryn: Interesting observation. I wonder where else the game is storing the <FullName> tokens... @doinkers: Thanks for the kudos. I'm still investigating the GoodEvil thing. I've heard that low influence makes NPCs go GoodEvil in the opposite direction as your PC. I don't know firsthand yet, but I'm just looking for bugs. @Jennaida: Leveling-- when you lower her level, Handmaiden should show that she's ready to level up. Is that not the case? For removing classes, you should never remove all the classes -- rather, edit the base class, or add a new class and then remove the base class. Or am I misunderstanding you? @Holowan Labs: Please, before posting what you think is a bug -- try closing KSE and reopening it to see if your changes are still there. Don't open it in-game to test until after you've performed that action. TSL obviously does some strange things behind the scenes and I need to separate that behavior from pure KSE bugs. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterNe0 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 After investigating myself, i found that it does changed after u gain either lightside or dark side causing you to make your teammates all evil if u editted them to 100% good. it wierd, I just keep on editting it until someone figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 @MasterNe0: I confirm that KSE is editing the GoodEvil value of NPCs correctly. Any changes that are occurring in-game are a result of TSL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinkers Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 honestly, i think the light/ dark npc's are bugged. i mean how can atton, handmaiden, that alien guy and t3 all become dark side when i get light points. i can't confirm this but i think it happens regardless of class. i'm always palying lightside sentinel so for everyone else who use other class and are dark side, do your ppl become more light side as you become more dark? wow, that sounds like crappy english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamme Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 By tk102: I'm still investigating the GoodEvil thing. I've heard that low influence makes NPCs go GoodEvil in the opposite direction as your PC. I don't know firsthand yet, but I'm just looking for bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAlex Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by doinkers honestly, i think the light/ dark npc's are bugged. i mean how can atton, handmaiden, that alien guy and t3 all become dark side when i get light points. i can't confirm this but i think it happens regardless of class. i'm always palying lightside sentinel so for everyone else who use other class and are dark side, do your ppl become more light side as you become more dark? wow, that sounds like crappy english Are you sure about that? That doesn't sound like KSE problem to me. Must be a bug in the game. But still, that never happened to me. Visas is even 100% light side. Or maybe you didn't talk to your NPC's enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dak Vesser Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by SpaceAlex Are you sure about that? That doesn't sound like KSE problem to me. Must be a bug in the game. But still, that never happened to me. Visas is even 100% light side. Or maybe you didn't talk to your NPC's enough? It's doing that on the Xbox as well. But It's not KSE that I know. I'm using this trainer that Dootdoo made and when It's active, the npcs go up and down all the time with the Light/Dark. It only happens when the Main Play Character is high in the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinkers Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 i'm quite sure about the light/dark thing. i've always played sentinel or guardian. have never been a jedi master. jedi and sith masters are the ones with that influence feat. tk made the best program in the world. i mean how else can you give the bao-dur 100 influence and go thru that whole speech thing, make him a jedi consular, then upgrade him to a jedi master and at the same time giving him 99 points for all skill level i think we can all agree that THE GAME is bugged. been couple of times the game crash on me for no reason. just waiting for the patch to come out, and also for it to bring back my "heart of guardian" and "mantle of the force" but here's something. when i reach the telos surface decided to use KSE_309 to get some of the heavier armors like the mandalorian types. now the problem is when i equip it on bao-dur the game crashes. is it my comp's fault or the games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonus Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 I've noticed something wierd....Since I started using KSE, my NPCs will switch between light and dark on their own. They all do it, except Kreia. Now with 3.09, the game crashes by itself. Didn't do it when using 3.06. (beat the game without any editing or cheats first...this time I wanted to play around) Not sure what is going on, First time it happened was when I was buying from a merchant. Was kinda annoying, since I made the mistake of not saving the game for a while. lol Not sure if it's a TSL, or KSE thing...but the crashing started happening when I started using 3.09. The NPC Light/Dark has happened since I started using KSE...But doesn't really affect anything major...At least that I have seen...Altho...Handmaiden looks way better in the black then she does in the white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 @Argonus: You didn't say how you were using KSE. What did you attempt to modify? I will begin playing this game either tonight or this weekend and try to see first hand what is occurring. In the meantime given this type of feedback, perhaps it is best that users do not attempt to modify Influence or GoodEvil of their NPC or PC. I know KSE is writing these values correctly, however there be other fields that require auxillary updates or TSL may be doing something scriptwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonus Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by tk102 @Argonus: You didn't say how you were using KSE. What did you attempt to modify? I was using it to mod the Attributes and the GoodEvil and Influence. So at this point, I am thinking it may not be totally your fault, just the way that Obsidian did the GoodEvil and Influence...maybe you are missing something hidden they stuck in there. This is the PC version by the way....Don't know if it was doing this on the XBox version (don't have an XBox) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinidj Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 I finally managed to get the file from my friend. But ofcourse nothing works with my "Über" Computer. It wont start... No error Message, nothin Any tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 I see you are from Iceland. Have you tried using KSEA instead of KSE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinidj Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 I dont think so Is it different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 It will say "v3.0.9 alternate" in the lower right corner. Of course if it is closing before you see anything that doesn't help you. The name of the .exe is kse_309a.exe (not kse_309.exe which is the standard version's name). The reason I ask is because some non-English users have the same symptom you have when they use the standard KSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinidj Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Ok Thanks alot You are the best And your editor to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Just a minor FYI to you guys out there: Spoiler warning too, not sure... just in case: If you use Darth Nihilus for your appearance, it's all screwed up. His animations frequently get stuck, so he's moving around without moving his legs. It's too bad, he looks great. Also, I tried using the "Bastila_SLAVE" file for my female's appearance. It works, but it freezes the game if there ever is a situation where you take her armor/clothing off. Whether you do it from the inventory screen or from the Handmaiden duels on Telos. It's not a hit against the editor, it's just the way the appearance files work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignorotic Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 has anyone found any workarounds, etc, for the alignment (dark/light side) bug, so that you can play on the light side without having a party full of evil followers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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