FroZticles Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 What would you like to see... Think about what kind of heroes would make a good hero for each civ 3 abilities max make as many as you want just dont go overboard ill make up one off the spot.. 3 abilities max make as many as you want just dont go overboard and tell us what they counter against!!!! Republic Special Op Commando Abilities- Sniper, increases clone trooper fire power while in a group, Can train 4 clones to become snipers but they cant give the bonus and are weaker than there hero Effective against troops and mostly enhances his fellow units. Weak vs Jedi and other heroes. Have fun!!
lukeiamyourdad Posted March 10, 2004 Posted March 10, 2004 I don't get what you mean by "Medium armor has a sniper pistol that shoots every 3 sec". What is that??? Imperial Officer: Orbital Bombardment: Calls in an orbital strike on a certain area. May not hit every target in the area. Range Aura(Give me a better name then this): As an officer, with his binoculars he can help his fellow trooper target enemies. Increases LOS and Range of ranged units. This ain't like WC3 invincible heroes I believe.
Darth Windu Posted March 10, 2004 Posted March 10, 2004 I'd rather there were no heroes at all. Main reason being that they require micro-management, and that really isnt acceptable if we want large scale battles. They cant both be done well.
lukeiamyourdad Posted March 10, 2004 Posted March 10, 2004 What if we actually want medium scale battles?
Sithmaster_821 Posted March 10, 2004 Posted March 10, 2004 Then Windu won't associate with you (its actually not that bad), although I don't want heros either (whats the point?)
lukeiamyourdad Posted March 10, 2004 Posted March 10, 2004 Heroes are now a very popular feature of a lot of RTS. It can't be all bad to add in our own. It's not like we're gonna have Vader slaughtering down everything on his path.
Admiral Vostok Posted March 10, 2004 Posted March 10, 2004 Actually that's a good point, Luke's Dad. While many people are against heroes, the fact remains that they are popular amongst RTS games nowadays. I shall get right to the drawing board and design my heroes for my civ design...
FroZticles Posted March 10, 2004 Author Posted March 10, 2004 Well this thread wasn't put up to hear your opinons on whether you want heroes in the game or not it was so people could create there own. Windu not every battle will be large scale youll still have your rushes like it or not. And I'm still wondering why you post here cause in your world your the one thats right you have no tolerance for rejection and are to stubben to change things which aren't your ideas in the first place so move on and let us have some fun. PS I might create a UBER!!!!! template if I get the time.
Darth Windu Posted March 10, 2004 Posted March 10, 2004 What does it matter to you if i post or not? I would personally prefer large-scale epic battles rather than the smaller battles with heroes like in 'War of the Ring'.
FroZticles Posted March 10, 2004 Author Posted March 10, 2004 Did I say they were gonna be like war of the rings no unlike yourself I don't steal ideas and call them my own!!!!
Darth Windu Posted March 11, 2004 Posted March 11, 2004 lol, calm down little one. I didn't say that it would be like WotR, just that i would prefer standard epic battles as opposed to really small battles which include heroes.
lukeiamyourdad Posted March 11, 2004 Posted March 11, 2004 Medium Scale RTS do use heroes. Froz said that this place was not for voicing your opinion so please if you don't want heroes, just leave from this thread.
Darth Windu Posted March 11, 2004 Posted March 11, 2004 Precisely luke. My opinion just happens to be that heroes would be bad for a SWGB sequel. As this thread is on the topic of heroes in a SWGB sequel, it seems to be the best place to voice my opinion about this matter.
saberhagen Posted March 11, 2004 Posted March 11, 2004 Here are some heroes I'd like to see: Walrus man: disrupts enemy troops by going around saying he doesn't like them and pushing them over. Countered by jedi. Uncle Owen: Gives a huge bonus to all farms within a certain radius but won't let you attack the enemy cos it's too exciting. Admiral Ozzel: A hero for the rebels. His clumsiness and stupidity allow them to detect surprise attacks. Dies very easily. Rancor keeper: Controls wild animals. It's like luring but better... The Rebo band: Their inappropriate musical interludes cause all enemies within a certain radius to die of embarassment. R5-D4: Breaks down, creating a smoke screen which blinds enemies. General Dodonna: Has a beard. Er, that's it...
Admiral Vostok Posted March 12, 2004 Posted March 12, 2004 Yes, most amusing Saber. Windu, how can you not want heroes? They're just like RoN's Generals. Sorry, had to be said. Anyway I've done Hero rules for my design. They're called Commanders. I've also done the heroes for the Confederacy and Empire, the rest are coming soon. Here's the links: Commanders Overview Confederacy Commanders Galactic Empire Commanders
FroZticles Posted March 12, 2004 Author Posted March 12, 2004 Nice one saber but I think the rancor keeper could be put into it there is a wild unit on dathomir like the jawas and tusken. They are called the nightsisters force sensitive women who treat rancors with greatest respect and use them in battle
FroZticles Posted March 12, 2004 Author Posted March 12, 2004 Bah Vostok lets think outside the box!!!!!
Darth Windu Posted March 12, 2004 Posted March 12, 2004 vostok - i also have Commanders in my SWGB2 idea which are like RoN's Generals, i just don't think they're particually useful.
Admiral Vostok Posted March 15, 2004 Posted March 15, 2004 You're right, Froz. After posting these guys, I reconsidered it. I'm not terribly happy with what I've got there, so please ignore it until I have something better. I'm thinking now on moving towards only a single hero per civ. These characters would be pretty powerful, but you still need to back them up. They'd be a little bit like the characters in Generals, though the main difference is that the characters in Generals are meant to operate on their own while the heroes I'm thinking of work best with an army. Each hero would not necessarily be balanced with the heroes of other civs, and as such they would cost different amounts. These are the heroes I'm thinking of: Confederacy: Count Dooku Galactic Empire: Darth Vader Galactic Republic: Obi-Wan Kenobi (my reasoning on choosing Obi-Wan over Mace or Yoda is that I think we'll see a lot more how great a Jedi Obi-Wan is in Episode III, plus he's such an important character) Gungan Grand Army: Jar Jar Binks (Jar Jar would be pretty cheap, and I think the only abilities he'll have is that somehow things just seem to work out - based mainly on the bits in the Grass Plains battle where he messes up but it ends up destroying heaps of droids anyway) Rebel Alliance: Luke Skywalker Royal Naboo: Padme Amidala Trade Federation: Darth Maul
DarthMuffin Posted March 20, 2004 Posted March 20, 2004 There has been some debate when WC3 came out about keeping the hero system for SC2. Just think of it for a sec : a marine hero (what the heck is that?!?!?) Heroes are more for medieval/fantasy games. I just can't see a SW game with heroes. Keep heroes for the campaigns : what happens if your Darth Vader dies in a skirmish? End of the game? What about Luke?Keep in mind that a great game's strength is in replay value, and in the case of an RTS, that means multiplayer or skirmish vs cpus. Therefore, most peeps will play these modes, and most of the battles would be the classic "build your base and then destroy your oppenents". If you really want to have heroes, make them "normal Jedi/Sith". You could have more than one (but not an army), and THAT would make sense with what SW is.
FroZticles Posted March 20, 2004 Author Posted March 20, 2004 Thats why I'm not creating the movie heroes I'm making completely new ones.
FroZticles Posted March 21, 2004 Author Posted March 21, 2004 To be different I'm so sick of these people stuck in realism land they really need to adjust there radar a bit.
lukeiamyourdad Posted March 21, 2004 Posted March 21, 2004 Yeah we need other types of heroes then the common Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. They get repetitive.
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