OB1 KNOB Posted March 25, 2004 Posted March 25, 2004 Originally posted by DogGy I hope you will look after for these models - /model imperial/officer ( Brown one) - /model imperial/commander (Black one) If you're asking whether or not he will be doing color variations, I believe he's already stated that there will be several different colors from the films.
Neon Posted March 25, 2004 Posted March 25, 2004 Ow, sorry, i cannot read english so good, but I just helped him to remind
Lei Hng Wei Posted March 25, 2004 Posted March 25, 2004 Remind him? You haven't been to his site have you? Uniform colours is old news.
TK-8252 Posted March 26, 2004 Posted March 26, 2004 There were no blue or brown officers in the movies. That's what I don't like about Raven's influence on Star Wars fans. Now, people see a black-uniformed officer (which is supposed to be a Stormtrooper Officer, one of the lowest ranked officers in the forces, in an off-duty uniform) and think "Imperial Commander." There were only three colors shown in the movies: black (Stormtrooper Officers and NCOs), white (ISB Officers), and gray (commanding officers). I'm not going to go into the EU, it's far too misleading and unsupported.
AlphaleX Posted March 26, 2004 Posted March 26, 2004 Well, the new color is not green, i confused the standard gray with green But this image shows another color, and the image works good: http://www.swtroopers.com/imp_costumes/imp_ofc_uni2.jpg It's the Olive Gray
TK-8252 Posted March 26, 2004 Posted March 26, 2004 That's not olive gray... there was no olive gray uniform either. Once again you've confused a greenish color with the standard field gray. Originally posted by TK-8252 There were only three colors shown in the movies: black (Stormtrooper Officers and NCOs), white (ISB Officers), and gray (commanding officers).
monsoontide Posted March 27, 2004 Posted March 27, 2004 Funny how all the grey uniforms seem to look green though isn't it? (Perhaps more to do with the lighting/filmstock than the uniform itself?)
TK-8252 Posted March 27, 2004 Posted March 27, 2004 Originally posted by monsoontide (Perhaps more to do with the lighting/filmstock than the uniform itself?) Most likely. Here's some showing the true gray color:
monsoontide Posted March 27, 2004 Posted March 27, 2004 Yeah... It's possibly the dye in the material being based on a green pigment. (Like the way many black clothes are actually a REALLY dark blue under the right light) Check out the wall behind Moff Jerjerod - it's a blue grey and really highlights he's wearing green grey... In fact that may be the reason the uniforms appear so green is that the walls are such a blue grey. Either that or my monitor is so out of whack. Anyway it's all fairly irrelevant. He He! MUCH nicer boots HapSlash! - Bit behind I know - Did you ever do anything more with the Jedi Skywalker idea? (There just seems something wrong with the in-game one... can't put my finger on it. Just something odd.)
HapSlash Posted March 27, 2004 Author Posted March 27, 2004 I haven't done much at all with the Jedi Luke yet, I still want to get a decent likeness down before I get too involved with it. But, I'll probably use the new officer boots when making him. Originally posted by AlphaleX http://www.swtroopers.com/imp_costumes/imp_ofc_uni2.jpg It's the Olive Gray Here are more shots of that exact same uniform from the exibit,... http://www.theforce.net/swtc/exhibit/costumes.html#officer You can see that it can look different under certain lighting, but it is predominantly gray in color.
AlphaleX Posted March 27, 2004 Posted March 27, 2004 Ah ok, i see that is an invented colour, and the real color is always gray. Another thing, i see that some officers like grand moff tarkin, have two rank codes in the left arm and right, like this: http://www.eyeonstarwars.com/trilogy/character/images/tarkin.jpg not only tarkin, other officers also have two rank codes.
TK-8252 Posted March 27, 2004 Posted March 27, 2004 Originally posted by AlphaleX Another thing, i see that some officers like grand moff tarkin, have two rank codes in the left arm and right, like this: http://www.eyeonstarwars.com/trilogy/character/images/tarkin.jpg not only tarkin, other officers also have two rank codes. Most likely you mean fleet admirals. And Hap has already made one or two. Admiral Ozzel: And on the far left: Hap, I've been wondering for a while now, who is this officer? He looks either like Captain/Admiral Piett, or maybe Moff Jerjerrod? Or is he generic?
HapSlash Posted March 28, 2004 Author Posted March 28, 2004 That one was just a generic head made from scraps of other textures,... I had started on a face for Piett, but didn't get past the base for it,... the original Imperial head just isn't built for it. This is about as close as I could get the facial structure on the skin for it. From certain angles it looks all right, but as it turns you get some funky texture warping.
Methos007 Posted March 28, 2004 Posted March 28, 2004 Hey you could graft his face on another model and you'd have the villan from Idiana Jones 3! Also, are you planing on the making the black non-com version with the utility belt sometime?
TK-8252 Posted March 28, 2004 Posted March 28, 2004 Originally posted by Autobot Traitor Also, are you planing on the making the black non-com version with the utility belt sometime? You mean this? I asked the same thing.
Neon Posted March 28, 2004 Posted March 28, 2004 Originally posted by HapSlash That one was just a generic head made from scraps of other textures,... I had started on a face for Piett, but didn't get past the base for it,... the original Imperial head just isn't built for it. This is about as close as I could get the facial structure on the skin for it. From certain angles it looks all right, but as it turns you get some funky texture warping. wow, what did he take?
AlphaleX Posted March 29, 2004 Posted March 29, 2004 WOOOWWW!!! Excellent Piett Model!!! I can't wait for have that officers in my hands!!! You will include all the Imperial officer characters in this amazing pack?
HapSlash Posted March 29, 2004 Author Posted March 29, 2004 I'm not sure at this point, I guess it depends on what I get done, and how soon. I'll probably release a simple replacement version at first, but probably only for Outcast.
TK-8252 Posted March 30, 2004 Posted March 30, 2004 What rank skins would you plan on giving the three officer NPCs? IMO, the NCO could be the Imperial, the sub-lieutenant could be the ImpOfficer, and, well, I think you could guess what rank the Imp*Commander* would be. Just to give some officer info (ignore if you'd like, I love to ramble), gray-uniformed officers really shouldn't carry weapons. As you can see many times in the Battle of Endor, they never carried weapons, even when going into battle (Imperial ignorance most likely). Just one example, notice the officer running from the brawl: So for a little single player mod of mine for Jedi Academy, I've made the ImpCommander unarmed. But black-uniformed officers often carried weapons. Sub-lieutenant with a BlasTech DH-17 Blaster Pistol (ouch): Midshipman/ensign with a Merr-Sonn "Power" 5 pistol: NCO with what looks like a DH-17: Same with this NCO (weapon blocked): [/ramble]
AlphaleX Posted March 30, 2004 Posted March 30, 2004 Good information, tk, but if the officer do not have weapons... what he do?
monsoontide Posted March 31, 2004 Posted March 31, 2004 Or even "Bounty Hunters we don't need those scum."
TK-8252 Posted March 31, 2004 Posted March 31, 2004 Originally posted by AlphaleX Good information, tk, but if the officer do not have weapons... what he do? They run around unarmed until they can either snatch a fallen trooper's blaster from the ground or take a blaster from a gun rack on a wall.
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