Kurgan Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Okay I think it was you Lathain, you told me that you saw this bug happen so often, well lately it's finally happening to me to. So I'm playing Siege Desert on my Linux dedicated server with people (this is a rented server, I just have Win2k on my machine running JA at home). Usually happens when I'm in spectator mode on Siege Desert (but has happened a few times just playing too) and somebody will get on a Swoop then suddenly the camera views of 95% of the players will go absolutely NUTS (shaking around, zooming in and out rapidly, teleporting around, etc). This doesn't happen everytime somebody gets on a Swoop, but it only seems to happen WHILE somebody is riding. Now that "cloak doesn't work" thing was fixed by clearing the logs/cache and restarting the server, but how to fix this bug/glitch I wonder? It's very weird and makes the game unplayable for that person at least up to a minute. PS: I'm posting it here rather than in Tech support because I really don't know what causes it, but I suspect it's a flaw in the game itself and not the result of not having the latest video card drivers or something. Any info is appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthzappa Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 this friggin' bug (and it's sister, which i'll get to in a minute) is currently the bane of my existence as a 'vehicle map maker'. its not just swoops - i've seen it happen on dewbacks too! (mostly swoops tho'). it seems to be a bug deep in the vehicle engine of the basejka game, but is made worse by some server-side mods that i've seen (JA+ comes to mind.) the camera goes crazy, and you can't see a damn thing; it's like you are being teleported and swung about wildly while somehow spectating on the person on the swoop. the only way i've found to fix it is with /reconnect. it seems to be related to specatating somehow, and you have to be in the same general area on the map as the swoop rider. (if you are indoors and the swoop rider is outdoors, and theres a proper door that blocks 'vis' inbetween you, you wont see it until you go outdoors.) the "bug's sister" is similiar, but different. you die while in a vehicle that hides the player model, and when you respawn, suddenly your saber blade doesn't show (but its there) and theres a training drone thing (the little white ball that shoots) circling your head, but it doesn't shoot at anyone. again, only way i've found to fix is to /reconnect, but i've noticed that sometimes this one goes away on its own after a minute or so. sometimes not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted May 13, 2004 Author Share Posted May 13, 2004 Ah, interesting. The "floating seeker" thing I noticed playing Asteroids after a long time. That and the "jump like crazy in certain areas of the Imperial Hanger" bug. As to mods, I'm not really using any on this server, except for a few custom bot routes and custom bot files that I made myself. That and the "pushfix" linux patch. But I swear I've seen the bug before I installed that. Maybe I'm wrong... I'll try the /reconnect thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Dravis Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 I think that happened to me before the patch, but only when someone got on a wampa. The only time something like that happens now is when in duel, you have loaded the map and are in line (not currently dueling) and one of the duelists has not loaded yet. Then the camera goes crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthzappa Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 yea this bug is somehow related to spectate mode, which is why it might pop up in a duel server. it's not mod-related per se, but i found it happens much more on modded servers (JA+ and the like) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathain Valtiel Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Well, I get it while I'm playing though... Not spectating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR-0927 Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Originally posted by Kurgan Ah, interesting. The "floating seeker" thing I noticed playing Asteroids after a long time. That and the "jump like crazy in certain areas of the Imperial Hanger" bug. As to mods, I'm not really using any on this server, except for a few custom bot routes and custom bot files that I made myself. That and the "pushfix" linux patch. But I swear I've seen the bug before I installed that. Maybe I'm wrong... I'll try the /reconnect thing. Happens to me all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 The seeker drone usually appears when you are lagging due to vehicles it seems. Heh, I call the drone a "lag bot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted May 28, 2004 Author Share Posted May 28, 2004 The swoop camera bug has been happening a LOT on my (linux based) JA Siege server lately. It happens even when I'm just running around in third person mode, don't have to be in spectator. I wonder what causes it? Or how to fix it? (Other than constantly reconnecting) Very annoying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolusiem Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 When you spectate somone and join the game afterwards, when the person you last spectated gets on a swoop (or some other vehicles, mainly swoops) your screen will try to spectate that player again, without you being in spectate mode, so your screen flashes from the player on a swoop, to what your doing at that time.. over and over untill the player gets off the swoop. the only way around it is to not spectate anyone, just join the game as soon as you have connected, and if you need to spectate anyone (admins mainly, sry kurg) reconnect after your done. sorry if this has allready been said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 Interesting. So if you don't spectate another person it shouldn't happen? Because when you die in Siege you go to a "pseudo-spectator" mode, but you only view things from your own POV (not that of others). So just \reconnect if you ever do spectate... I'll try your advice and see if it works, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolusiem Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 ifs fine after you die, it wont cause the bug to happen, you can join spectate mode, the bug wont happen while your specing no-one and just flying around (like when you die) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hekx Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 I have just had this obnoxious bug several times within a game on Siege Desert. The camera angle switches to around three different screens at once - I can barely even see my player yet I still have 100% control. It began to happen EVERY TIME one person got on a Swoop. I was playing on Rebels - and it rarely happens when I join spectator. To me, this is one serious bug that I hope gets patched - otherwise, I'll be playing MBII and ditching Siege permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Um, dunno? I NEVER get such things. However something similar happend when i was also in spec mode, but only happend once for about 2 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted September 1, 2004 Author Share Posted September 1, 2004 Thread Revival! (For the Benefit of Anyone who can fix these annoying bugs!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthzappa Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 i've told slider about this bug, and he's gonna try and work a fix for it into JA+ i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Fisher Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 I think I only got this bug before the patch.. Hasn't happend except for when I'm dueling and the other guy hasn't loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 Well if it is fixable, I'd like to see server mods adopting the fix. Though ideally I'd like to be able to have the fix by itself without having to use some huge mod in order to have it! So whoever fixes it, I hope they put that information out for the public to use... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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