Darth Groovy Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 *apologies in advance for repeating this post in multiple forums, but I NEED feedback!* You know, I started sort of a rant in this thread about Star Wars games in general, and I felt this would be a thread worthy discussion about the material that exists in Star Wars games, and a good place for some positive/negative feedback. Basically I wanted to clearify, that I don't HATE the current SW titles already on the market, but I wanted to point out that what I feel really SELLS Star Wars games is the relationship between elements of the movies and the action that follows. Honeslty, the best parts of Dark Forces, were running around and fragging Stormtroopers, and interacting with characters and creatures that appeared in the original films such as Boba Fett, and Jabba The Hutt. I'm not saying the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series had "bad" story elements, but in the end, what made the games fun was being in that Star Wars universe and feeling like your in one of the movies. First SW game I really ENJOYED was Super Star Wars for SNES . The first time I ran the trench battle at the end of the game, I truly felt like Luke, and after several failures I literally closed my eyes before fireing the torpedoes into the mine shaft, and finally won the game. I was so exited, I literally had a beer party that night in celebration! Friends of mine were so HOOKED on that game. Now granted, it WAS a side scroller, that involved ALOT of TEDIOUS platform jumping, but all in all, for the time, the game was seriously fun, and did the best they could to capture the exitement and pace of the original movies. Lets face it, alot of the games currently out there are basically clones of games that have already been released. (and some were done alot better to a certain degree. Jedi Outcast/ Jedi Academy is Quake III with lightsabers. Galactic Battlegrounds is Age Of Kings II with Star Wars elements. Star Wars Battlefront is going to be 1942 with Star Wars Elements. Starfighter/Jedi Starfighter/Rouge Squadron is well.....a flight sim! Flight sims have been around for almost 2 decades! Even Republic Commando is going to be a FPS based on Unreal technology. Star Wars Galaxies is basically Everquest, and (arguably) contains Star Wars Elements. This may get me into some trouble with any wandering member of LucasArts, but I personally feel that there are WAY TOO many titles based on characters from Episodes 1, and 2, and let's face it, not too many of them were too popular amongst serious gamers. What we want and need is a game that is actually based on the Originally Trilogy, that uses actual characters from The Original Trilogy that utilizes something other than technology that is already been done in other games. Something that has smoothe graphics, and has the same nostalgic feel of the Super NES Star Wars games, without having it be a side scrolling platform jumper. Have characters do what they do in the movies! Don't have Darth Vader fly out from over a cliff and shoot you full of lightning bolts! I'm not a game designer, but I just know that the Star Wars game I been looking for, has never been released. The best parts of the games that were out there, I only enjoyed, because for a split second or so, I felt like I was in one of the original films. Even my favorite part of Jedi Outcast, was NOT the SP game, but on MP, where I downloaded maps and models that were based on the movies, and tried to re-create those scenes! Am I alone on this idea, or is the need and want for a new game based on the original movies long over due? I open this for discussion, and again, this is not to trash LucasArts, or any of the games being released, it's just an area for some much needed feedback on all the games in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xirion Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Jedi Outcast/ Jedi Academy is Quake III with lightsabers. Galactic Battlegrounds is Age Of Kings II with Star Wars elements. Star Wars Battlefront is going to be 1942 with Star Wars Elements. Starfighter/Jedi Starfighter/Rouge Squadron is well.....a flight sim! Flight sims have been around for almost 2 decades! Even Republic Commando is going to be a FPS based on Unreal technology. Star Wars Galaxies is basically Everquest, and (arguably) contains Star Wars Elements. your not the quickest person in the universe are you? I would like to see a SW take on GTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted August 1, 2004 Author Share Posted August 1, 2004 Originally posted by Xirion your not the quickest person in the universe are you? I would like to see a SW take on GTA WHAT?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 yeah, on coruscant or even better: troughout the universe... no that would be cool. Only on Coruscant and stuff, it would be hard to steal a car... *jump* *Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong fall* *miss car by an inch* 'dammit!' *Splorch* EDIT: i'd also like to see a starwars version of Halo 2... Y'know, you grab two blaster pistols, kick a trooper off his speeder bike 'n kick some ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Dark Jedi Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Star Wars games are better:D It would be good to have a Star Wars version of GTA.Id love to steal a speeder and then cops chase me in a speeder chase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Originally posted by Xirion your not the quickest person in the universe are you? Any kind of explanation for that? Or are you just being silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Geez. Of course they are just basic copies. all games are just basic copies. there are a few exceptions, but basically, all of them have one that is like another. I mean, battlefront isnt a copy of bf1942. it is a large multiplayer game reinacting the SW battles. It happens tro be a bit ike bf1942. I mean, geez. ur 'revelation' is bogus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanLingo Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 You gotta admit, when LucasArts is original, they do a great job (i.e. Gladius, Armed and Dangerous, etc). Unfortunately, Star Wars has too many high expectations to meet in one game. And I think that what Xirion was trying to say was that Groovy is pointing out the obvious. I know Groovy is your special friend and all, but Xirion wasn't being insulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 lucasarts does rock hard. yeah, Xirion was just saying how obious it was, lay off him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieStarWarsGeek Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 It's hard nowadays to make ANY game that hasn't been "done before." The reason all these games seem like ones before is that there's no more basic gaming ideas that haven't been made already. Any game that comes out is going to draw comparison to another game made before it. I think the only new thing that will come out in the future is if virtual reality gaming becomes readilly marketed. Sounds like you want something like Star Wars meets the Final Fantasy series. More intense role playing with a linear plot, but still with cool battles and enough action to satisfy. ? I don't know. But I agree, most games recently have concentrated too much on the new trilogy and not the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 yeah, long live OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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