yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 negotiations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn negotiations yeah. that's definitely what America is known for. Anyway, Reagans greatest accomplishment was Bedtime for Bonzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Here's a quote taken from the Jar Jar thread. andif jar jar didnt give him the powers, someone else wouldve. And if Reagan hadn't been in office when the soviet Union fell, someone else would have, and by your OWN arguments, that makes him an unimportant president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 they are two differner threads. one is about a fictional character one is about reagan. your reasoning is retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn they are two differner threads. one is about a fictional character one is about reagan. your reasoning is retarded. Not atall, your own logic dictates that your arguments should follow the same rational. It doesn't matter if they're different threads or not. Fact is, you said that Jar Jar isn't important because he was just there, but someone else would've done the same thing. Same with Reagan, and, again, by YOUR OWN logic, Reagan was an unimportant pres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 not, its not. jar jar was in a movie. his importance is judged differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn not, its not. jar jar was in a movie. his importance is judged differently. not true. Your contradiction and going back on your word a lot leads me to question your credibility on any of your posts. Jar Jar was deemed unimportant because he had the chance to create the empire, but if he wasn't there someone else would have done the job. and by that logic Reagan is unimportant because he was there by chance to say "tear this wall down" had he been "removed" someone else would have done the same, thus we'd have the same ending, credits roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Hey yaebginn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 no, the outcoe woulda ultimately been the same if jar jar just wasnt in. not treu with reagan. if you just pretended reagan didnt exist, then history would be forever changed. in the movie, its not real, so it doesnt matterm so my judgement is different. I'm gonna go to bed now cya edit- noob? I just startd and have over 1000 posts. and if you want someone to kill themselves because of something they say, then ur really screwed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn no, the outcoe woulda ultimately been the same if jar jar just wasnt in. not treu with reagan. if you just pretended reagan didnt exist, then history would be forever changed. in the movie, its not real, so it doesnt matterm so my judgement is different. I'm gonna go to bed now cya But if Jar Jar just wasn't in the outcome would have been changed too. Which we've shown with evidence, that you simply ignore, by making up scenarios, which I can also make up. Say Reagan isn't pres, and someone else is, and the Soviet Union still collapses because they were bankrupt anyways. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 but it wouldn't have happened with the same ultimate ending. reagans good skills convinced gorbachav. you are just altering history to suit your political beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn but it wouldn't have happened with the same ultimate ending. reagans good skills convinced gorbachav. you are just altering history to suit your political beliefs. trust me, anybody's speaking skills can convince someone to abandon a form of government. all he has to say is.....give up communism or we'll invade your country. having virtually no defense at that time, gorbachav had no other choice. Originally posted by yaebginn if you just pretended reagan didnt exist, then history would be forever changed. how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinWalker Posted August 4, 2004 Author Share Posted August 4, 2004 Reagan's influence on history and the fall of communism is indisputable, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that "only Reagan" could have done it. It seems to me that U.S. foreign policy wouldn't have been that muchy different with a different administration. It is a great fallacy of political extremists that one side of the false-dichotomy of partisan politics operates wholey different than the other. History has demonstrated that to not be true. There are, indeed, some differences in adminstrating domestic policies, but when it comes to foreign policy, I've seen little difference in position. We basically spent the USSR to death. Period. True, Gorbachev stated publically his respect for Reagan's perseverance, but in the end, Gorby didn't have the ultimate power to do what he wanted out of respect for an American President. His government collasped economically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 I never said only reagan could do it. but I did say only reagan coulda done it that way. the outcoe woulda been the same in that instance, but the world is not yet over, so we dont know yet how reagan affected it. unlike jar jar, because the movie is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn edit- noob? I just startd and have over 1000 posts. and if you want someone to kill themselves because of something they say, then ur really screwed up. That's why you are a noob. You post so much **** in a little amount of time. Thank you sir, I think you are screwed up, too. And look, I bought you a gift! It's a dictionary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 but most of the stuff I post is intelligent information in debates. Also, I have not resorted to flames at all in any debate that I can recall. Unlike InsaneSith, the very person who thanked me for not flaming. and, zbomber, you have over 8000 posts. you have been here a bit over two years. in two year, you have 8000 posts. thats pretty noob-like to me. especially since all you post is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn but most of the stuff I post is intelligent information in debates. Also, I have not resorted to flames at all in any debate that I can recall. Unlike InsaneSith, the very person who thanked me for not flaming. and, zbomber, you have over 8000 posts. you have been here a bit over two years. in two year, you have 8000 posts. thats pretty noob-like to me. especially since all you post is crap. Ok, "dood". You call it intelligent, I call it a desperate way of getting posts and attention. You say it's intelligent, but it really is no debate at all. You just like to argue, it's obivous. Thank you sir, for calling me a noob. That means so much coming from a 2004 veteran like yourself. Kthx drive-thru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 also, zbomber and myself post in most of the forums. kthxbai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuuki Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 pownt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 where did you come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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