Alegis Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 This is somethign that always has amazed me, the star wars geeks i know of in real-life liked this character, just like me, and on the internet everyone hates it. what exactly was it that made you hate this character, and most importantly, did you base your opinion on those of others (very common in this case) NB: same happened with C3PO when star wars was out... jar jar rulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 parts of me hate him, parts of me find him just as I found 3-PO in the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Meh. I don't mind Jar Jar... I don't hate him, but he's not one one my favorite characters either. However, his part in the prequels is more important than some would want it to be. In TMP, he unites the 2 races on Naboo and in AotC, he is the one who proposes to give the emergency powers to the Chancelor in the senate, a decision that will of course have radical repercussions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 I dont hate him, I just find him annoying. I mean, he talks jibberish, and not the cool kind. I mean, hes a goof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 His character is important, but I hate his VOICE. that high pitch squeeky voice makes me want to jam a pencil in my ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 alot of others wanna do that to you, too. lol. his character isnt even that important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 ... yeah it is. He's the reason palpatine gets supreme power. the collected power of the senate. that's pretty important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Indeed. He was tricked into thinking he had to help his friends. So he did what Padme was fighting against, and gave the republic an army. He screwed them over, in layman terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted August 3, 2004 Author Share Posted August 3, 2004 kinda brought the gungans with the humans on naboo together to win from trade f. And supreme power was needed, no? The plan of Palpatine was perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 one thing, jar jar had little to do with helping in Ep1. andif jar jar didnt give him the powers, someone else wouldve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Jar Jar had everything to do with helping in episode 1. Without him QuiGon and Obi-Wan never would have found Otoh Gunga, and then the humans and Gungans would never have formed an alliance so the gungans could lure the droid army out of theed It's irrelevant if someone else would have done it, JarJar is the one who did, making him important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieStarWarsGeek Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 I have a theory. If they had made Jar-Jar(and the rest of the gungans) speak in a more normal voice and language, then he would not have been that annoying. That is most everyone's complaint, the stupid jibberish based on a cajun/southeast U.S. dialect. (some people went as far as to say it was racist- gungans with big lips, etc.) They simply sound ignorant, and unbelievable. Think of if they simply had made them speak differently. You know, better english, but still different somewhat. Yeah Jar-Jar did some stupid things, but so did C3PO. He's just a blatant comic relief character. He would not have been that big a deal if his voice wasn't so STUPID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 actaully no. if they ddint find jar jar. thye woulda made it to theed, but a bit later. they woulda then freed the queen from captivivty. and flown to couscant. stopping on tatooine. the thing woulda happneed on tatooine. then they go to corsuscant. same thing happen there. then they go back to naboo. and form a diff plan. where the speeders do a frontal assualt on the city and the est sneak up to the thrones. OR- they coulda just used humans as a diversion. anakin still blew up the shup ,so it doesnt matter. same outcome. jar jar was just retarded. he did nothing. he is no more imrtant than Lobot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 It's funny you bring Lobot in the debate as he might have been a very secondary character but his part was still essential in the whole story... Imagine that Lobot didn't exist, then how could Lando discretely call for help, how coud Leia, Chewie and 3PO escape from the stormtroopers, how could Luke have survived without his friends picking him up before he fell to his doom, how could Leia, Lando and Luke free Han if they're dead, and finally how could Vader kill the Emperor if Luke isn't there to bring him back into the right path ? This brings us to Jar-Jar... If the jedi hadn't met Jar-Jar, they wouldn't have made it to Theed a little bit later, unless you call a couple of days a little bit later. They were on the other side of the planet, without means of transportation. They had to go through the planet core to use Boss Nass' words to get there in time to free the Queen from the droids... so Jar-Jar is important for showing them the way to Otoh Gunga. Also, the naboo people didn't have much of an army, they couldn't have entered Theed the way they did if the droid army hadn't been drawn out. Jar-Jar played a key role in bringing the 2 peoples together and ultimately in beating the Trade Federation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 huh? lobot didnt cause all that. u on crack? and the jedi coulda bragged onto a tank, and gotten there the same time as the droids or takena stap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 How exactly are they going to man a Federation tank... I don't think the other people in the droid army will just let a tank waltz off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 not man it jsut grab on to it, or man it, and just follow th eother tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn huh? lobot didnt cause all that. u on crack? and the jedi coulda bragged onto a tank, and gotten there the same time as the droids or takena stap. Then what would have happened if Lobot wasn't there to save Leia and company ? That's what I thought... And the droids that took the Queen prisonner were not the droids who passed Qui-Gon And Obi-Wan... they were on another part of the planet. There's no way they could have gotten there in time to save her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 one tihng, lobot didnt do that much ,your scenario is invalid. and I alreayd said, they woulda busted her out using the tank/stap they took ove.r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 I'm not saying he did a lot, I'm saying what he did was very important... not the same thing. And what tank exactly are you referring to ? I don't remember them taking over any tank, ship, speeder or any other means of transportation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 they woulda if it wasnt for jar jar. and what lobot did wasnt important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 You can't know that, besides even if they did capture a droid tank, they still wouldn't have been there on time as the fastest way to get to the other side was through the planet core using a bongo. Not to mention they wouldn't have Jar-Jar to guide them, so they wouldn't know where to go... As for Lobot, if you're saying what he did wasn't important, then tell me what would have happened if he didn't do what he did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 he didnt do anything ,and the jedi woulda just followed the other droids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn he didnt do anything ,and the jedi woulda just followed the other droids. He was the one that lando contacted on his wrist communicator, setting up the ambush to free leia and chewie and 3P0. Without him they never would have escaped the empire. And your argument is assuming things had happened differently, but they DIDNT, Jar-Jar did what he did, and he helped a LOT, and so his character was IMPORTANT. We can't use the well if THIS would have happened we didn't need him. There are ways we could have written QuiGon Jinn out of the story of Episode 1, was HE unimportant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 jar jar wasnt impotant. if u just take him out, the ultimate ending woulda been the same. and lobot didnt do much at all. again, the ending woulda ultimaely the same, he could've called some else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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