Willybone Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Seriously. You guys rock. It's so nice to go someplace where my un-modded self can find a fair fight. There's too few of you, so I wanted to encourage you to keep up the purist work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokill Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 same whit me JA+ is not that nice btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 I concur completely. Too rare indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverhoodian Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Yeah, game mods are a double-edged sword. The good thing about them are that it can give an aging game a new lease on life by introducing something new and innovative to the game, thereby sparking a renewed interest in playing said game. However, mods can also be problematic. I had to recently reinstall JA because of interference with mods. For one thing, the sky box wouldn't show up. Also, I had so many extra files that tied up resources that the game's performance started to suffer. I found myself lowering the video settings to just about as low as they could go and still experiencing unacceptable amounts of lag. My experience with Wolfenstein: ET mods was even worse. Not only was the game slow, but it wasn't even working properly. Sometimes an "illegal operation" error would randomly appear and the game would crash. Other times, it would crash and bring up my internet browser whenever there was a file the server used that I didn't have. It would even crash sometimes when I tried to vote in the game. After putting up with this for quite some time, my frustration had nearly reached Biblical proportions. Filled with a righteous rage, I uninstalled the game and deleted every single extra file that was even remotely related to the game. After reinstalling both games, things are working fine now. Since then, I've taken a more cautious approach at mods. I'll only keep them in the game files when I want to play them, and I only download a fraction of the files than I used to do. Kudos to pure servers-they keep life simple for us gamers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amidala from Chop Shop Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Just to clarify, there is a difference between "pure\unpure" and "basejka\modded". You can have a basejka server that is either pure or unpure, and a modded (such as JA+ mod) server that is either pure or unpure. My JA CTF server is "basejka" and "unpure". My JK2 instagib server is running a mod (Disruption) but is "pure". "Pure" just means any .pk3 file that the client is using (including the assets files and a model or skin that the player is using) must exactly match the file of the same name on the server. It is designed to prevent players from "hacking" their game (assets) files to cheat. Mostly, it just forces players to not use any custom skins or models they have, unless the exact same file has been placed on the server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 I really don't see the point of setting pure (as in no custom skins, sounds, etc.) servers. I'm pretty sure that there is no way to "cheat" with .pk3 files. Are there even any "cheats" or "hacks" in JA? I've heard rumors about wallhacks and aimbots in MBII and instagib servers, but that's it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtrip Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Yes, what amidala said. Pure stops some hacks in the form of assets. But even with a basic ogl hack, whether the server is running pure or not becomes irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Well, the problem is that the "pure" hack check is pretty easy to get around with a program that simply changes the CRC of your files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 Originally posted by razorace Well, the problem is that the "pure" hack check is pretty easy to get around with a program that simply changes the CRC of your files. So theres not really a good reson to set your server on pure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtrip Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 I stops retards from hacking (ie. most of the people who play JA (***NOT INCLUDING anyone who reads this thread***), but not anyone who is determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Originally posted by Lightning So theres not really a good reson to set your server on pure? Well, it's nice for client/server mods where you want to force the players to download the mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willybone Posted October 4, 2004 Author Share Posted October 4, 2004 While it may not stop a truly determined hacker/cheater, at least on unmodded servers, I find the playing field to be consistently level. And if someone did hack themselves some extra powers, I'd feel justified in complaining or leaving the game. I just like playing the game the way it was originally written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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