Nairb Notneb Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Genetically modified cats for sale http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/10/27/biotechnology.cats/index.html (CNN) -- A California biotechnology company has started taking orders for a hypoallergenic cat for pet lovers prone to allergies. Have you seen the movie Gattica with Ethan Hawk, Uma Thurman and Jude Law? This hypoallergenic cat is basically the first step to that movie coming true. First we have the clone d cat known as "CC" now you can order a cat to go that you aren't allergic to. What's next, a cat that walks on its hind legs? How soon until we start mixing different species just to make a profit? Doing small things like this cat are nothing, the real deal is genetically altering people in the womb, or preordering your child to go the way you want it. People are already ordering the gender of their future offspring, why not hair color, or sin tones. Why note athletic abilities. Didn't Hitler try to create the perfect race before? Maybe I'm over reacting but genetic manipulation leads to nothing but discrimination on an entirely whole new level that is basic in nature. It boils down to certain groups hating others because they are different. In this case it would be to genetically enhanced against normal, naturally bread people. Talk about a pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 all genetic modification is stupid and worthless... we should not be genetically modifying ANYTHING, no matter what... leave organisms alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Let me know when they make a cat with purple hair that pisses out chocolate milk. Seriously though, this is pretty cool for those suffering from the gum disease known as GINGIVITIS allergies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairb Notneb Posted October 27, 2004 Author Share Posted October 27, 2004 I would agree that this one modification all by its self is most likely harmless. I would also applaud their foresight in the neutering of these cats in an effort to keep them from breeding because the ramifications would be unknown. But once you start something you can never un-start it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 very very true, although, i think if they were going to bother modding these cats, they should allow them to breed:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Originally posted by Lieutenant_kettch all genetic modification is stupid and worthless... we should not be genetically modifying ANYTHING, no matter what... leave organisms alone You're right, I mean, what if we found out how to manipulate people's gene's so that they wouldn't get Diabetes or Cancer! That would be pretty pointless. I think it's neato, cats are cool and all people should have one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Dravis Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 While there are some downsides to genetic modification, I think that the benefits far outweigh the risks. Think of all the stuff you could do...the health benefits alone will make it worth doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_hill987 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 No offence to anyone who has, but if you have a cat alergy, don't get a cat. I don't see the point in this maybe I'll get one when they do something cool like glow in the dark http://www.mongabay.com/external/glowing_fish.htm I'm glad they stoped them breeding but to quote jurassic park "life always finds a way" GM is dangerous because no one really knows what they will happen (If you beleive the films anyway) I don't think this is as bad as the GM crops though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 i believe in God, so, from a religous standpoint, He always has a reason and a use for everything, and because He is perfect, we shouldn't mess with His work... but that is just a religious view:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Ginn Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Don't you think we could find something better to do with millions of dollars? I mean toward a much more rewarding end?Like curing cancer? Nah, lets modify cats so people won't sneeze when they're around them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Dravis Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Originally posted by Lieutenant_kettch i believe in God, so, from a religous standpoint, He always has a reason and a use for everything, and because He is perfect, we shouldn't mess with His work... but that is just a religious view:eek: He did give the animals to us to use...and GE is has already proven a very useful tool. Modifying humans is a different matter entirely. Originally posted by Feanaro Don't you think we could find something better to do with millions of dollars? I mean toward a much more rewarding end?Like curing cancer? Nah, lets modify cats so people won't sneeze when they're around them! You know, people don't just come up with experience out of the blue. They aquire it by doing similar, small things first, then they are able to do other things that are far harder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 crops have been modified since the beginning of agriculture. And the dogs you see now at some point they never existed, they came about through cross breeding, aka very old-school genetic modification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 there is a BIG difference between cross breeding to create hybrids between two existing things, and modifying to create something new and never before seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Dravis Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Originally posted by Lieutenant_kettch there is a BIG difference between cross breeding to create hybrids between two existing things, and modifying to create something new and never before seen Actually, it's much the same, although the element of chance plays a much greater role in the former. I think the issue here is how fast things can get radically different with GE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Originally posted by Lieutenant_kettch there is a BIG difference between cross breeding to create hybrids between two existing things, and modifying to create something new and never before seen but both end with something you've never seen. So they're very much the same. Like SD said, the first one just involves more chance, where as with genetic engineering, you know what you'll get. and SD is right, the issue is how many changes will we see due to genetic engineering, how far will people go? Things like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 well then, just to stay consistant:lightning no GE at all!!!! but i do see a big moral difference between the two, even though you do end up with the same theoretical end, one is just more natural than the other. (and yes shok, i do have some morals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 So you'd rather people suffer and die from diseases that we could eventually cure through learning more about our genes? I think any religious viewpoint that impedes science (so long as the progress isn't amorally gotten) is in fact amoral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 I admittedly don't know the Bible very well but does it explicitly say somewhere, "Thou shallt not modify my creation" (or whatever), or is that just something that people just read into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 so you would rather kill viruses, malignant cells, and bacteria than humans and animals??? what kind of sick pseudo-life double standarded fellow are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Originally posted by Lieutenant_kettch so you would rather kill viruses, malignant cells, and bacteria than humans and animals??? what kind of sick pseudo-life double standarded fellow are you? Huh? Yes I would rather kill viruses and bacterias. *Was that sarcasm? No offense but it sounds...weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Have you ever taken anti-biotics kettch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 i'm just sick of everyone with double standards, and could it be, but canceris here for some reason, we jsut don't know what Edit: no:explode: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Or even just let your immune system do it's job. Your white blood cells are vicious killers! But yes, I would be very pleased to wipe out malicious viruses and bacteriums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 but my white blood cells are not sentient.... they are mindless slaves...i do not hold them responsible, and they are a NATURAL means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcd1234 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Originally posted by Lieutenant_kettch but my white blood cells are not sentient So viruses are sentient so we can't kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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