FroZticles Posted November 9, 2004 Posted November 9, 2004 It obviously looks like a early AT-AT design. Confederacy and Republic are 2 different governments. Confederacy is a dictatorship and rallies all its forces into one super army to become the dominate force in the galaxy. The Republic is a government which makes the laws and governs all the planets within it. They had no army and only had Jedi to go and keep the peace between the planets and resolve issues in the galaxy. Some planets have armies to protect its homeland but the Republic which is a government not a planet have not passed the law they can have an army until AOTC. The Republic do not think that the planets are apart of there army because there not. Where as the Confederate allies want control of the galaxy and to destroy the Republic hence they rallied all armies into one. So you cannot compare Confederacy with Republic.
DK_Viceroy Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 If it wasn't for Palpatine manipulating things in the background the Confederacy would have undoubtadley won. I said the IDEA for the Rebel Assault Mech it looks similar but obviously it isn't the same since it isn't bright beige in the film.
FroZticles Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 If Palpy did not manipulate the way he did the Confederacy would not exist.
Admiral Vostok Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 Viceroy I think you're looking at the wrong thing. The Juggernaut - at least in the Episode 3 Concept Art and certainly in it's role as the Rebel Strike Mech - has wheels. The vehicles I'm talking about have four long AT-AT like legs.
DK_Viceroy Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 I'll look at the Trailer but those things in the background don't look very tall, Perhaps it's possible that it could have both wheels and legs. Wheels for fast travel and Legs for steady travel.
Admiral Vostok Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 You're very much mistaken about them not being tall. Here's a picture of them since you don't seem to know what we're talking about:
Nairb Notneb Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 The Wookiees could start off fighting with the clones, thus begin cheering while they defeat the confederates in battle. Then soon after combat Palpy turns the universe upside down, the Empire emerges and the clones turn on everybody, including the Wookiees, thus beginning their enslavement.
Admiral Vostok Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 That's the way I see things happening, yes.
DK_Viceroy Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 It's also the same idea that the EU gives. especially in a quote I beleive from the thrawn Trilogy about "hard faced clones over-running the galaxy" I believe it was Talon Karrade in response to why he was helping the republic.
Sithmaster_821 Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 And modern humans aren't ten times the size of early humans! Not to burst your bubble or anything, but they just found this type of early human who was the size of a modern three-year old.
Admiral Vostok Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by Sithmaster_821 Not to burst your bubble or anything, but they just found this type of early human who was the size of a modern three-year old. How do they know it wasn't an early-human three-year-old?
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 The way the bones are. Though, it is a part of the evolutionary steps. We(modern homo sapiens) did not exist at the same time as the "Hobbit"
DK_Viceroy Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 They'll be finding a Cyclops skeleton next and then they'll discover the straits of Scylla and Charybdis. I'll watch the trailer again and zoom in one the things in the background. I was too fascinated by the EPIC space battle between the SUPERIOR forces of the confederacy and the Numerically superior forces of the Republic (maybe)
Admiral Vostok Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 I was too fascinated by the EPIC space battle between the SUPERIOR forces of the confederacy and the Numerically superior forces of the Republic (maybe)I would say it was the other way round, in that the Confederacy has more numbers (after all they have got droids which can be built in 5 minutes rather than Clones which take ten years to make) but the Republic is the tactically superior force. The Republic do have the Jedi which would give them a tactical edge.
DK_Viceroy Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 one of the Confederacies signatories is the TECHNO unions read TECHNO as TECHNOLOGY so they'd more than likely have the superior ships. The Kaminoans however did have a lot of clones and quite a few of them staggered. They will also have more than one cloning city. after all Tipocca City is Kamino's capitol and if it was it's only city then there'd be no point in calling it the capitol.
Nairb Notneb Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Speaking of epic space battles. Does that capitol ship that's blasting at the Republic cruiser look like a Dreadnaught to anybody else? Wouldn't that make the EU guys nuts if Lucas brought in a Dreadnaught!
DK_Viceroy Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 I think it's a GEONOSIAN Frigate/Dreadnought. How would a dreadnought make us EU guys go nuts Nairb? The Capitolised GEONOSIAN is for Vostok's sake.
Admiral Vostok Posted November 13, 2004 Posted November 13, 2004 Nairb, I commented on that on the first page of this thread, though: Another thing I thought was interesting in the trailer is a ship that appears very much like the Dreadnaughts from EU. If it is indeed a Dreadnaught, Lucas has once again gone against EU by having the Dreadnaught being used by the Confederacy instead of the Empire... Thanks for the capitalisation, Viceroy, but again you don't have any proof it belongs to the Geonosians. But at any rate I never said Geonosians wouldn't have their own ships, I said they wouldn't provide Geonosian Fighters and Geonosian Warriors to the war effort. Frigates/Dreadnaughts is another thing entirely, and even then you don't know that it is actually crewed by Geonosians. As I said in my quoted post above and as Nairb alluded to, the inclusion of the Dreadnaught as being used by the Confederacy and not the Empire means Lucas has once again defied EU. I should point out that by including the Dreadnaught and Juggernaut Lucas is not including objects that were created by the Expanded Universe. The designs for both of these vehicles existed as concept art back when the original movies were made. From those abandoned concept designs, EU created a whole background for a vehicle that could have appeared in the original trilogy. In putting these designs into the Prequels, Lucas is claiming back the designs and ignoring the EU that was created for them.
DK_Viceroy Posted November 13, 2004 Posted November 13, 2004 Actually EU never said anything that would contradict the COnfederacy using Dreadnoughts. The Juggernaut is actuall an EP III concept art and was created out of one line that I beleive was cut which talked about a Clone wars "Juggernaut" which had increadible power.
Admiral Vostok Posted November 14, 2004 Posted November 14, 2004 Except that the EU says the Dreadnaughts were used by the Empire.
DK_Viceroy Posted November 14, 2004 Posted November 14, 2004 Where? just because the Confederacy uses one type of dreadnought doesn't mean that the republic can't also use a different type.
Admiral Vostok Posted November 14, 2004 Posted November 14, 2004 Well if the databank article is anything to go by, having them originally in the hands of the Confederacy doesn't correlate: http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/dreadnaught/eu.html
DK_Viceroy Posted November 14, 2004 Posted November 14, 2004 Ah Vostok You have fallen into the Designation Trap. The Geonosian Dreadnought is obviously Confederacy Aligned. The Katana Dreadnought is Republic/Empire Aligned. It's like comparing a German WWII Tiger Tank to the Soviet WWII IS-2 tank because they're both callled Heavy Tanks.
Admiral Vostok Posted November 14, 2004 Posted November 14, 2004 No it isn't. A Dreadnaught is a type of space cruiser in the same way an X-Wing is a type of fighter or a Tiger Tank is a type of heavy tank. I suppose you could argue both sides had Dreadnaughts, but considering how lame that databank entry makes them out to be I don't see why they would.
Sithxace Posted November 14, 2004 Posted November 14, 2004 im sorry who ever is saying about their own theory and how it might work etc, your a retart, its a movie, theres no physics or rights and wrongs to what happens in the movie, its more of what george lucas wants and is best for the movie.
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