stingerhs Posted March 9, 2005 Author Posted March 9, 2005 i've also confirmed that this works. not only that, but it also gives you a nice little framerate boost. i'm adding this to the first top page as a fix for the game.
Acleacius Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 "Doesn't work for me though ... damn my system." Odd, I am not sure how it could not work, by placing the atioglxx.dll in the KotOR2 directory it overrides you system drvier. What driver are you using in your main system? Also are you sure you have the 4.11 version (your putting in the X:\KotOR2) extracted correctly? Does your ATI card have known conflicts with the 4.11 driver?
j3di_sean Posted March 11, 2005 Posted March 11, 2005 I'm using a Sapphire X800Pro with Ati Catalyst 5.3 (recently) installed. The game, however, runs smooth most of the time. Except places like Jek jek tar, Goto's ship, Nar shaada. where frame rate is between 10-30... Basically, kotor2 doesn't give any glow on my system. So I try various versions of atioglxx for glows. 4.11atioglxx doesn't give any glow for me. I dunno why. Are you using the same 4.11atioglxx downloaded from Ati website? Mentioned in other thread, 4.3 and 4.2 atioglxx's give glow at the expense of artifacts and permanently disabled AA. A much older version of atioglxx gave the glow without artifacts and restrictions on the graphic options. But the frame rate is HORRIBLE. At times reaching single digits. I'm gonna give that DNA 4.11 catalyst thingy a shot...
j3di_sean Posted March 12, 2005 Posted March 12, 2005 OK. I found out which driver works the best on my Sapphire X800pro. After testing atiodlxx from 4.4 to 4.11, the best to use is 4.7. It gives the glow, no artifacts, pretty good frame rate, and no restrictions on AA. Glow doesn't work 4.8 onwards... Hope it helps.
Kiwegapa Posted March 12, 2005 Posted March 12, 2005 Wow..you've really put a lot of work in on this, j3di_sean and stingerhs. Thanks.
Acleacius Posted March 12, 2005 Posted March 12, 2005 "Are you using the same 4.11atioglxx downloaded from Ati website?" Yes and various mirrors, I have only seen orginal ATI 4.11s and the DNA 4.11s. "So I try various versions of atioglxx for glows. 4.11atioglxx doesn't give any glow for me. I dunno why." You might check to make sure you have a line in your, swkotor2.ini Darth333 mentioned, Disable Vertex Buffer Objects= , except make sure it is set to 0 not 1. If it is set to 1 it turns off glow, which is what sounds like is happening. Any hoo, just a thought. Good Luck.
j3di_sean Posted March 12, 2005 Posted March 12, 2005 As mentioned earlier, using 4.7 gives optimal performance for frame buffer effects. However ... Drawback: The game crashes A LOT. 6 of 10 times, the game will shut down in between loading areas...
j3di_sean Posted March 13, 2005 Posted March 13, 2005 I have downloaded a list of DNA drivers. I've got a problem though ... How do I extract atioglxx from these files? There is no "Open with winzip" option.
stingerhs Posted March 13, 2005 Author Posted March 13, 2005 if its an .exe file, then startup winzip and open it from there.
j3di_sean Posted March 14, 2005 Posted March 14, 2005 Not as easy as it sounds. Can you try it? THe best method i can think of is install dna catalysts ONE BY ONE and save the atioglxx files... Btw, will this spoil my computer??
stingerhs Posted March 14, 2005 Author Posted March 14, 2005 easiest thing to do: get the video driver cleanup utility from the omega drivers, run the cleanup utility, install the dna drivers, save the atioglxx.dll file, run the cleanup utility again, then finally reinstall the catalyst drivers. unfortunately, the people that made the .exe file for the DNA drivers are using a really weird compression format that not even WinRAR can understand. so, you're going to have to take the above steps to get the lone file. kinda sucks, don't it??
j3di_sean Posted March 14, 2005 Posted March 14, 2005 Originally posted by stingerhs kinda sucks, don't it?? Yeah. But I'll give it a shot ... I'll let you guys know how it turns up. (won't be so soon because I'm having tests this week)
silkshadow Posted March 14, 2005 Posted March 14, 2005 Just a data point. I am not sure where I read it originally (it wasn't here though wish I knew about this place on my first playthrough), but the solution Acleacius posted fixed my Dantoine and other random spots problems. I have an ATI 9800XT. I can even crank up antialiasing and antro-whatever now. I had tried the edit ini thing posted in Lucas's support but that did diddly squat. Actually, before I read the solution with the 4.11 driver, I was just tweaking antro-whatever and it fixed the prob but it was a pain to keep doing that over and over. I still have the gamma problem though. Everytime I exit KOTOR2 I get blinded by the high gamma of my monitor . I should stop playing in the dark lol.
stingerhs Posted March 14, 2005 Author Posted March 14, 2005 well, i may be wrong, but can't you mess with the gamma controls for 3d mode in the catalyst control panel?? i'd give it a shot, but i'm not at home right now to test it.
Kiwegapa Posted March 15, 2005 Posted March 15, 2005 The gamma in KOTOR 2 is really wild. Sometimes it'll start the game with a setting not specified in the ini or it will return from the game and set your desktop to a strange gamma level. I myself have only the problem with the game occasionally setting itself really dark. If the game is too dark/bright: From the main menu or from the graphics options page, adjust the gamma one notch, then adjust it back, and it will be normal again. If your desktop is too dark/bright: Yes, the ATI Catalyst drivers and the nVidia Forceware drivers both have a gamma control. Again, try adjusting it one notch, then returning it to default.
silkshadow Posted March 15, 2005 Posted March 15, 2005 Yup that works for me, but it still blinds me when I exit KOTOR before I have a chance to fix the gamma level.
j3di_sean Posted March 15, 2005 Posted March 15, 2005 Alright! I've tested DNA catalysts OpenGL's. DNA 4.7 atioglxx - with glow - no artifacts - no graphic restrictions (AA, AF, etc.) - no crashes (so far) Conclusion: DNA 4.7 is more stable than Ati 4.7. Glow doesn't work for Catalyst 4.8 onwards. 4.6 and 4.7 gives the same results, so use the later one. Hope it helps...
stingerhs Posted March 15, 2005 Author Posted March 15, 2005 sweet!!! although the question is: what steps did you take, and how long did it take for you to get it working? inquiring minds would like to know.....
j3di_sean Posted March 16, 2005 Posted March 16, 2005 The procedure is the same for any DNA catalyst application. 1. open the program and agree to install the driver 2. DNA program will extract necessary files (INCLUDING atioglxx.dll) into a folder (of your choice) before installing. 3. A message will come up asking you to confirm if you want to remove your current driver. (I use this time to copy the atioglxx.dll from the folder). There are a few atioglxx's there, so take the one from a folder named "normal OGL" (or something of that name). 4. Once that is done, disagree to install the driver. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree to remove your current Catalyst, it gets removed anyway. So I installed Ati Catalyst 5.3 again.
j3di_sean Posted March 16, 2005 Posted March 16, 2005 Originally posted by stingerhs how long did it take for you to get it working? Get what working? I'm assuming you're talking about the atioglxx from DNA. I just put it in the Kotor2 folder. The extraction of atioglxx for different DNA's were a PAIN though.
stingerhs Posted March 16, 2005 Author Posted March 16, 2005 ^^^^ actually, i was referring to the whole process of getting the driver from the DNA drivers to your kotor2 folder. but, now that you've provided the how of the equation, i don't think that it would take too long. i'll give it a shot tommorrow after my 10:30 class and check my results.
j3di_sean Posted March 16, 2005 Posted March 16, 2005 Ati 4.7 - 75% chance of crashing DNA 4.7 - 10% chance
Darth333 Posted March 20, 2005 Posted March 20, 2005 Just wanted to point out this guide: http://www.tweakguides.com/KOTOR2_1.html for troubleshooting & optimizing Kotor 2
Acleacius Posted March 21, 2005 Posted March 21, 2005 Ok, I have a few new things to add as well. Frist sadly we may have to learn to live without Omega Drviers. http://www.omegadrivers.net/ I would cut and paste thou it is kinda long. Second besides the Tweak guide Darth333 mentioned there is a ATI specific tweak guide, here. Its possible to do some of the tweaks that Omega and DNA do which can be finetuned for your specific system. http://www.tweakguides.com/ATICAT_1.html Best of Luck to Omgea and Good Luck to everyone getting TSL running great. BTW Anyone have a clue about the patch? 2 weeks ago Obsidian posted it was in testing/production and would be avalible soon. Thanks for any info.
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