ChAiNz.2da Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Originally posted by jedigoku @ chainz.2da how is modding bringing troops to the darkside? It's just a saying Not to be taken literally (especially in-game wise)... "Modders" or "Modding" is associated to being on the Darkside as we bend the game to our will rather than digest what LA decides to spoon-feed us ergo... the more modders we have, the more DS troops Holowan has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Kenobi Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Then I'll say one thing ChAiNz. "You ask my name? Our name is Legion for we are many upon many" I'm a firm believer that we make these games MUCH MUCH better than they originally were. One only needs to open up yours and T7's sections of this mod to find very hard evidence of that. I think next time they wanna make a game they should pull the talent from here. Hell some of us work for their subsidaries on occasion anywho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Originally posted by Darth Melignous I think next time they wanna make a game they should pull the talent from here. Hell some of us work for their subsidaries on occasion anywho We've had this discussion before lol, the problem with working for the company is having all of those discretion issues. If Fred worked for them, he wouldn't be able to distribute KT. (For Example) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 ok back on topic If it not to much trouble could you add a option with kirea that allow you to buy some of the special crystals once you've achieved a prestige class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Originally posted by jedigoku ok back on topic If it not to much trouble could you add a option with kirea that allow you to buy some of the special crystals once you've achieved a prestige class Not to cut you down man, but I'd (personally) have to vote "no" to that request.. Why would Kreia all of a sudden have a pocket full of crystals to "sell"? (means the witch has been holding out even more on you ) The USM, although large, tries to maintain balance and a somewhat "storyline". Some crystals will be randomized loot (as it should be), others like the BA-Prototype already has a tie-in to the game... and of course, still others will only be obtainable through proper/available Padawan training and such.... ie - - Segan's sabers (and Xia's) have their own histories, and therefore fit best as random rather than Kreia having them - Master Jedi/Sith sabers will be on the Masters (for obvious reasons) I'm personally against the whole "Sell all crystals just so they're available" route... I prefer T7's method of Bao building certain models (with a price)... There's always KSE for those not wanting to have to 'deal' with the mechanics... but it's going to be worth it for those that do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T7nowhere Posted April 18, 2005 Author Share Posted April 18, 2005 Originally posted by Darth Melignous I think next time they wanna make a game they should pull the talent from here. Hell some of us work for their subsidaries on occasion anywho Hell, I would settle Just for beta Testing the game. Originally posted by Mono_Giganto We've had this discussion before lol, the problem with working for the company is having all of those discretion issues. If Fred worked for them, he wouldn't be able to distribute KT. (For Example) He could probably distribute the tool, But not improve upon it from being employed by them. In other words He would have to stop working on it. Originally posted by jedigoku ok back on topic If it not to much trouble could you add a option with kirea that allow you to buy some of the special crystals once you've achieved a prestige class Right Back on topic. If everything works out that won't be nessesary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 i havnt commented very much (if at all) on this project. i have been monitoring it however. Its pretty exciting. Its amazing how well you guys can work together and make something this massive, this huge, this game changing. The game really does revolve around your weapon. Even though this only changes a small thing, the hilts, it adds much more adventure into the game, more excitement. And is something that should truely be honored. The People who are creating this mod are working so hard, that it will definatly show in the final product, No mod, that ive seen, has been this huge. This wont change the story, or how things come out, sure but just changing one thing makes the game so much more interesting, more fun, and it will be better to play it. The people who are slaving away at this mod are definatly recognized for making the best mods out there. And since they banned together in this, They will make the greatest mod of Holowan. I would like to say "Good Work." but that isnt merely enough to what you have been doing, you alter your lives, just to make something for a simple game, you are dedicated, and nothing could challenge that. It is truely amazing, and i am speechless about this mod, and when it is released, your names will be remembered, as the download count rises in the thousands. But since i cant think of anything i can say to truely reward you all, I will just say "Good Work" with my eternal Grattitude. If you keep up the hard work, and have strong Team work, you can work Star Wars Kotor Miracles. ---Bobo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daiko701 Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Originally posted by Bobo i havnt commented very much (if at all) on this project. i have been monitoring it however. Its pretty exciting. *Edit for length (Daiko) ---Bobo Very nicely put and I am sure that most of us feel the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranins Hull Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Very nicely put and I am sure that most of us feel the same way. ___________________________________________ couldn't have said it better myself Bobo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 It been a while since any new info have ya got an update for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Every update they provide here is time that they are not putting toward finishing the mod there. It's only been a couple of days. Do we really need daily updates? Considering the effort that they have put forth this far, do any of us really think that they have abandoned this project? Perhaps if we left the thread alone, we could know when there were updates because it would be bumped. As it is now, I hop into the thread everytime it's bumped hoping for updates, only to find that someone has (yet again) bumped the thread asking for an update. I'm sure that I'm not the only one frustrated by this. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Kenobi Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Originally posted by Achilles Every update they provide here is time that they are not putting toward finishing the mod there. It's only been a couple of days. Do we really need daily updates? Considering the effort that they have put forth this far, do any of us really think that they have abandoned this project? Perhaps if we left the thread alone, we could know when there were updates because it would be bumped. As it is now, I hop into the thread everytime it's bumped hoping for updates, only to find that someone has (yet again) bumped the thread asking for an update. I'm sure that I'm not the only one frustrated by this. Just my 2 cents. I AGREE TOTALLY ACHILLES I do the same thing (sorry that i'm doing it now) and check for updates only to find yet another "forum user" not "modder" typing something stupid like "Looks Great" or "Less Filling" or some such crap. I can think of users that have as many post numbers as I do and have never released a thing mod wise or even give advice like we all do that are on here to learn and to mod. They just respond to 50 threads a day with pointless stuff. I bet out of 20 you get 2 that's actually leaves real feedback and $20.00 says if you asked one right after they posted what the picture or the like was they commented on they COULD NOT tell you. I say leave em' alone and they'll let us know. I get a little mad when I open the thread only to find one of those posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 For those of you who need daily updates, I would suggest looking in their screenshot gallery insetad of giving people like me, Achilles, and D M false hopes. They keep that gallery fairly updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seprithro Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 There sure are alot of impatient noobs...er, I mean people, waiting for this mod i step out for a bit and when I come back, everybody is super impatient :-p I mean come on guys, I have already given you a rock soild release date of before April 31st but really it will be done before you know it, so allow me to use the standard line, ......ready for? here goes: It's done when it's done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoNico717 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 If i use Skip Peragus v1.2 Mod by SuperSquall, i'm going to have further conflict thought the game? or i just going to miss Kreia Light Saber?. Edit: BTW, this mod rocks!!!... very pro guys, very pro!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Originally posted by SoNico717 If i use Skip Peragus v1.2 Mod by SuperSquall, i'm going to have further conflict thought the game? or i just going to miss Kreia Light Saber?. Edit: BTW, this mod rocks!!!... very pro guys, very pro!!! If everything goes smoothly, you'll just miss out on Kreia's "walking stick"... (but where's the fun in that? ) Though T7 would be the "word-of-law" regarding that issue... he's doing all the hard stuff at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juha Avery Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Originally posted by Seprithro There sure are alot of impatient noobs...er, I mean people, waiting for this mod i step out for a bit and when I come back, everybody is super impatient :-p I mean come on guys, I have already given you a rock soild release date of before April 31st but really it will be done before you know it, so allow me to use the standard line, ......ready for? here goes: It's done when it's done The modders here allready gave the impatient ones nice teaching lesson, so thats old allready.. And the its done when its done isnt so funny anymore, so lets just say its going to be released when ever the modding crew wants to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T7nowhere Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 Originally posted by Juha Avery The modders here allready gave the impatient ones nice teaching lesson, so thats old allready.. And the its done when its done isnt so funny anymore, so lets just say its going to be released when ever the modding crew wants to. What kind of additude is that! DO you think that we just don't care about getting this mod out. I understand everyone has been waiting, but for you to say that our plan is to just release when ever we feel like. I'm not going to make excuses for how long this mod is taking just be happy that we want to share and are taking more than ourselves into account. PS: All the posts about when this mod is comming out is even starting to get to me . Please be considerate of those that do make mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Originally posted by Juha Avery The modders here allready gave the impatient ones nice teaching lesson, so thats old allready.. And the its done when its done isnt so funny anymore, so lets just say its going to be released when ever the modding crew wants to. Agreed with T7 and Juha.. you do know that the person you quoted.. Seprithro.. is one of those modders...?? Perhaps you need to re-read this thread and reconsider your words... Despite what some may think.. we're not "sitting" on this project. In fact, this project has taken up alot of time... I've received several PM's from others asking for help on other modding projects but had to respectively decline due to wanting to make sure that this one (USM) is released as tip-top as it can be... The few projects that I am "on retainer" for is going slow because the USM is the #1 priority... It's not a matter of "wanting" to release it, it's a matter of making sure the thing actually works the way it's intended... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 for those of you who got on my case for asking for an update you haven't read any of my posts have you cuz each on dealing with deadline I've stated "take your time plz cuz it will be worth the wait" and all the when will it be done post are getting to me so just stop it will be done when they feel it works the way it is suposed to and finally @USM team plz take your time and make it work the way you want it to cuz it will be worth the wait and then some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Originally posted by Juha Avery And the its done when its done isnt so funny anymore, so lets just say its going to be released when ever the modding crew wants to. Actually, I still think it's pretty funny, kudos to you Sep. And seriously, though I'm not involved in the making of this mod, I can say that modelling takes an extreme amount of time. For me at least, between my life and modding this game, I'm lucky to finish a single model in 1-2 weeks. These guys are making 33 saber hilts for this project. Considering that there are four people with jobs (I think. ) working on this mod, that's an average of 8-9 sabers per person, so by my standards, this mod would be out early and I would be very happy if it came out in 8-16 weeks. Then there's the fact that you have to duplicate the model for every color, and T7's up to his neck in scripting.... Seriously, give them some time. You can't predict what's going to happen in yuor life during the next few weeks. They may have a lot of time and decide to wrap it up quickly, or maybe they have something important going on and they need to delay it. Either way, when it's out, it's out. We just need to let these guys go about with their lives. And as for you guys doing all the hard work, I say kudos to you (2 for Sep now lol.)! I'll try and send you guys bike pumps to re-inflate your tired brains when this is all over. No promises though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Originally posted by Mono_Giganto Actually, I still think it's pretty funny, kudos to you Sep. And seriously, though I'm not involved in the making of this mod, I can say that modelling takes an extreme amount of time. For me at least, between my life and modding this game, I'm lucky to finish a single model in 1-2 weeks. These guys are making 33 saber hilts for this project. Considering that there are four people with jobs (I think. ) working on this mod, that's an average of 8-9 sabers per person, so by my standards, this mod would be out early and I would be very happy if it came out in 8-16 weeks. Then there's the fact that you have to duplicate the model for every color, and T7's up to his neck in scripting.... Seriously, give them some time. You can't predict what's going to happen in yuor life during the next few weeks. They may have a lot of time and decide to wrap it up quickly, or maybe they have something important going on and they need to delay it. Either way, when it's out, it's out. We just need to let these guys go about with their lives. And as for you guys doing all the hard work, I say kudos to you (2 for Sep now lol.)! I'll try and send you guys bike pumps to re-inflate your tired brains when this is all over. No promises though. thank you know some agrees with me and acctually its like 33x5x3 model cuz most of the models can change colors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Originally posted by jedigoku thank you know some agrees with me and acctually its like 33x5x3 model cuz most of the models can change colors Yeah, I said that: Then there's the fact that you have to duplicate the model for every color BTW, please try not to quote a post as lengthy as mine was and reply with only 2 lines. It hurts our brains and our scrolling fingers. Even for those of us with scrolling wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Originally posted by Mono_Giganto BTW, please try not to quote a post as lengthy as mine was and reply with only 2 lines. It hurts our brains and our scrolling fingers. [/b] oop I forgot alot of people don't have scroll wheels on their mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juha Avery Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I do know sep is one of those modders but its kinda obvious that the modders decide when its coming out or isnt that true? Thats only thing that im sayingso dont get all dramatic 'bout it. And i can tell you ive read this thread TOO MANY times. Ofcourse its matter of wanting, i mean i can write a book and look its ready and go and sell it when ever i want to. So dont get that wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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