Strange Writings on the Flags

[Kurgan]

Yeah sorry guys for my part in getting us off topic. You know I'm a sucker for religious discussions.

 

I'll leave the alien languages up to the experts! I downloaded some of those fonts, but I haven't gone through the game to try to decipher any of them yet.

[Shok_Tinoktin]

Okay, I found another wierd one. On some crates on the Core Ship on Geonosis, the writing seems to say 'Hand turns makes' or 'hand turns majes'. It is a little blurry, so it might be a little off, but I can't seem to read it in a way that makes any kind of sense.

 

Originally posted by Kurgan

I'll leave the alien languages up to the experts! I downloaded some of those fonts, but I haven't gone through the game to try to decipher any of them yet.

 

Some as in more than one? I only know Basic, so its possible that one of these others matches some of the writings I can't identify. I'll try to check it out.

 

EDIT: One mystery solved! (sort of)

 

It would seem that the symbols from Arena G9 should be flipped to look like this:

When you do that, it seems to be Nubian, although I can't seem to identify the first letter ('A' is my guess, though it doesnt seem right). It reads '?BCDERQU'. Just more jibberish I assume, or designers initials or something.

 

EDIT: Crazy theory.

 

It might just be the fact that its late at night, but it almost seems like the writings on the Kashyyyk crates are not alien at all, but rather just upside down.

It seems to read: SF SORE VHBRUE. I think its time I got some sleep.

[Shok_Tinoktin]

This one is written on the wall when you first reach the RAS Prosecutor in sp. It reads IMSAI 8080 W.O.P.R.

[BeBop]

Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin

Found one! On the map 'Engine', there are signs posted all over that read: 'Regard: Too many right hand turns makes you go in a circle'.

 

This is also all over the Lockdown map and on some of the screens on the RAS Prosecutor. (Though sometimes backwards)Also, I'm going to try to see if there is anything on the screens in the Bridge of the Core ship (when you get the data, the side of the bridge opposite that of the console you hack)

[Shok_Tinoktin]

Yeah, I forgot to mention that I found those signs all over. I haven't started translating it yet, but the computer consoles that you slice on the Prosecutor seem to be legible.

[Kurgan]

Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak

Once again Kurgan, over thinking

 

Mandalorian were around before Jango Fett. Jango is not the only Mandalorian in the galaxy, and yes, he is human. I consider "Mandalorians" as a Galactic Ethnic group/Clan, besides, there are aliens in the Mandalorion Clans at one point in time. And actually, I think they rename their conquered planets "Mandalore," so yeah, they can be "Mandalorians."

 

And no, the clones can't Kaminoans. They're Human [Clones].

 

Considering how convoluted their "history" is, you can't blame me. I remember old books talking about Boba Fett's "famous mandalorian armor" and "the mandalorian super commandos" who "fought the Jedi" according to old Lucas interviews about the prequel era (long before he started making the new movies of course).

 

The term "Mandalorian" is never mentioned in any of the films. I don't even remember if it appeared in any of the film novelisations either. It would seem to be C-level canon except Lucas himself seems to have mentioned it in the past (but apparently dropped it like a hot potato when he actually made the prequels).

 

There was all that stuff (which I never read, only heard second or third hand) about "Jaster Mereel" who was Boba Fett's old name. This got trashed when AOTC was made, so they turned Jaster Mereel into Jango Fett's father (grandfather?) or something I don't recall exactly the explanation. Ask somebody who's read the old stuff and the new retcons. I don't know anymore, which was why I asked. Let a bigger nerd than me figure it out!

 

And again, sorry to get off topic.

 

Those are some danged interesting inscriptions! (and fun too)... Any more?

[Kurgan]

Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin

Okay, I found another wierd one. On some crates on the Core Ship on Geonosis, the writing seems to say 'Hand turns makes' or 'hand turns majes'. It is a little blurry, so it might be a little off, but I can't seem to read it in a way that makes any kind of sense.

 

 

 

Some as in more than one? I only know Basic, so its possible that one of these others matches some of the writings I can't identify. I'll try to check it out.

 

Yes. The so-called "Aurabesh" alphabet (based on the gibberish first seen in ROTJ) is a Star Wars language, but is it really supposed to be "Basic"? (now the EU term for what is "translated for us" as English in the movies).

 

Anyway, yes there are other "alphabets" that I've seen online. Otherwise how are people translating this stuff (all you're doing is replacing each letter of the english alphabet with a letter from the fake alien alphabet)? So take them for what you will...

 

A few neat ones here:

 

http://massassi.yavin4.com/sw/mmfont.htm

 

Some variants of aurabesh:

 

http://www.xmission.com/~m2hills/notyourmother/sw_fonts.htm

 

A few more variants (and mirrors):

 

http://www.blueharvest.net/download/

 

Nice list:

 

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/4965/sffont.html#MEW

 

A couple here:

 

http://unclebear.com/fonts/comments.php?id=450_0_3_0_C

 

Tons more here:

 

http://www.erikstormtrooper.com/fonts.htm

[LukeKatarn]

Originally posted by Kurgan

There was all that stuff (which I never read, only heard second or third hand) about "Jaster Mereel" who was Boba Fett's old name. This got trashed when AOTC was made, so they turned Jaster Mereel into Jango Fett's father (grandfather?) or something I don't recall exactly the explanation. [/b]

Jaster Mareel is Jango's father, but not blood father. Jango Fetts real parents died, and Jater, the leader of the Mandalorians at the time, took him in and raised him. He was like a father to Jango, until Montross killed him. WHich explains the rivelry of Jango and Montross in the "Bounty Hunter" game. I am not sure if Jangos parents were real Mandalorians, so Jango may NOT be a Mandalorian, or he may be. All I know is that Jaster was like a Father Figure to him.

[Shok_Tinoktin]

Originally posted by Kurgan

Yes. The so-called "Aurabesh" alphabet (based on the gibberish first seen in ROTJ) is a Star Wars language, but is it really supposed to be "Basic"? (now the EU term for what is "translated for us" as English in the movies).

 

Anyway, yes there are other "alphabets" that I've seen online. Otherwise how are people translating this stuff (all you're doing is replacing each letter of the english alphabet with a letter from the fake alien alphabet)? So take them for what you will...

 

I suppose I'm not sure if it is supposed to be "Basic" (that has just been my assumption), and yes, it was translated by just replacing each Aurebek letter with the corresponding English one. Thanks for the links, but after your previous post I did some searching and came to those sites (among others). Unfortunately, it was only able to help me translate one set of mystery symbols (turned out that the G9 symbols were Nubian).

[Kurgan]

Ok. I updated some of the links. Anyway, those were some I hadn't seen before, and maybe they'll help some other people out (edited the post since you posted btw).

 

 

LukeKatarn, all I can say is "SEE WHAT I MEAN?" it's a confusing mess! Thanks for trying, of course.

 

It's like trying to make sense of a 40 year old Soap Opera.

 

I didn't play far enough into the Bounty Hunter game (I had to rent a PS2 to play it and I didn't have a memory card) to learn that stuff about Montross.

[LukeKatarn]

Lol, sorry. I tried, my Jango Fett history isn't taht good. That's all I know. The reason why it might be so confuseing is if you haven't played/beaten Bounty Hunter. That game is hard. I'd help you guys translate this stuff, but I just took back my rented RC game on x-box a few weaks ago.

[Kurgan]

Since the EU is so huge and expansive (not to mention expensive if you collected it all) it probably helps to make people nail down the sources they're talking about. You say most of this info comes from the Bounty Hunter game right? Maybe there's a write up someplace that summurizes it for the people who don't want to or can't play through the whole game to get there.

 

Sometimes SW.com is useful as a source, but they often skimp over or get the facts wrong (don't ask me why, I guess continuity is hard to maintain even for the official site!).

[Shok_Tinoktin]

The Unofficial Encyclopedia tends to have a better track record with explaning these kinds of things. I couldn't really find anything conclusive looking up Mandalorian, but the entry on Jango Fett yeilded some interesting results:

 

Unofficial Encyclopedia

As a child, Jango was orphaned on Concord Dawn when his family, farmers by trade, were murdered in a civil war among the factions of the Mandalorian Shocktroopers. Vizsla captured Jango and forced his parents to tell what they knew of Jaster Mereel, but the Fetts refused. Jango fled as Vizsla and his cronies executed his family. Jango himself was saved by Jaster Mereel and later trained by the Mandalorians, debts which he carried for the rest of his life. Jango became one of the noted Mandalorian Shocktroopers, and it was believed that he was the only survivor of that military group.

 

The fact that he 'became a Mandalorian shocktrooper' implies that Mandalorian is a group more then a race or ethnicity. The sources seem to be primarily comics (although I'm not sure where this particular bit of info came from). Of course, this is all unofficial, but it tends to be very reliable.

[LukeKatarn]

Yeah, I could get all the text from the comic book on the game, that basicley tells the story, but there are things that you need to know in BH. I haven't found any thing on BH, but I haven't been looking. I'll try to find one, I wish my info could help more.

[Shok_Tinoktin]

Im kind of surprised that BeBop hasn't beaten me to this, but the sniper rifle has a lot of text (it changes). I've only begun translating it (my estimate is that I have about half of it). I have a theory that when we have all of it translated, it may come together to form a single (or two) large message(s). Here it is so far:

 

Or a 3D indicator at the top of the based on our revised project

 

Much of the player's view to be helpful I'd sugge

 

Upcoming vacation by a week. Thus, I will be gone from monday, September 20th

 

This makes it really hard to see. It's a major imparment to comb

 

For 3 weeks, and will return on Monday.

 

After talking with Chris, its apparent that it would be good

 

Imparment to comb I know we

 

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I've also translated what I could find on the new map. Nothing especially interesting (or intelligible) here. Aside from what has been seen in other places, this is what I found:

 

D FSLKJEDMEKWA FAS

 

F CDME

 

[mirror image of ME]ME

[Joetheeskimo]

Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin

While waiting for people to join an assault game, I decided to translate the writings on the hologram at the flags.

 

How did you? Is there a translator online, or what?

[BeBop]

I had to translate everything myself. Just found a page that had what each letter in Aurebesh (Star Wars writing all over the place) was, and then just compared it. Was a bit of tedious work till I got the hang of it. But there is no translator that I know of.

[Shok_Tinoktin]

Originally posted by joetheeskimo5

How did you? Is there a translator online, or what?

 

Years ago, I got a copy of the Aurebesh symbols and the English equivilent printed on the back of Star Wars monopoly, and have since memorized it. So basically I just read what the flag said.

[Renegade Angel]

Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin

They were also printed in the SW Monopoly instruction book, and are memorized by some of us.

 

I'll check it out and see if I can find anything interesting.

 

EDIT: Found one! On the map 'Engine', there are signs posted all over that read: 'Regard: Too many right hand turns makes you go in a circle'.

 

Another: On the map 'Garden', in huge letters is 'Love' and 'XXX'.

 

On the map 'Lockdown' it says '11 Post' outside the red base, and '38 Main' outside the blue base. Wonder where they came up with those numbers?

 

I can't make any sense of this one: on the map 'Ghostship', written all over is 'DFSLKJE CDMEKKA FAE'. I assume it is just jibberish, but maybe it means something.

 

The last thing I found, is that on the map 'Gunship', there are symbols that are not in the aurebesh. They seem to form a 3 letter word and a 5 letter word. I suspect that it actually means something, because one symbol from the 3 letter word is also in the 5 letter word, and if they were making up symbols, I think they could make up 8 and not just 7. Maybe it is some Earth language?

 

Here is what they look like:

 

Heres a hint for Ghostship- Its either scrambled or stands for something.

First person to figure it out wins!

(I know what it says)

AND....................GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shok_Tinoktin]

I hate guessing games, can't you just say what it is? I'm assuming it stands for something, because there doesn't seem to be enough vowels for it to be scrambled.

[Shok_Tinoktin]

I've translated a bit more of it, and I'm pretty sure it forms (a) larger message(s). This is because of the overlap I've found between them. My theory is that it has (a) larger message(s), and randomly takes a piece of it to display every so often. If anyone wants to help me by posting more pieces, or trying to fit stuff together, please do. Here is what I've collected since the last time:

 

's view to be helpful I'd suggest either a Halo

 

10th, as my parents are taking a road trip acro

 

style 3D world position indicator or a 3D indicator at the top of the

 

imparment to comb I know we've revisited

 

lpful I'd suggest either a Halo style 3D world position indicator

 

I know we've revisited it a ton of times

 

the new objective elipse thing makes it really hard to

 

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I'll edit my post after I try to piece some of this together.

 

EDIT: Here is what I have so far:

 

much of the player's view to be helpful I'd suggest either a Halo

style 3D world postition indicator or a 3D indicator at the top of

the Based on our revised project

 

this makes it really hard to see. It's a major imparment to comb I

know we've revisited it a ton of times

 

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EDIT: Okay, I've translated some more of it, and this is what I have for sure:

 

the new objective elipse thing makes it really hard to see. It's a major imparment to comb I know we've revisited it a ton of times but it just blocks out too much of the player's view to be helpful I'd suggest either a Halo style 3D world postition indicator or a 3D indicator at the top of the Based on our revised project schedule and after talking with Chris, its apparent that it would be good

 

upcoming vacation by a week. Thus, I will be gone from Monday, September 20th

 

for 3 weeks, and will return on Monday.

 

riday, september 10th as my parents are taking a road trip acro

 

October 11th, however, I will still be out on

 

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Now, considering that october 11th is three weeks after september 20th, im guessing it can be put together like this:

 

upcoming vacation by a week. Thus, I will be gone from Monday, September 20th for 3 weeks, and will return on Monday, October 11th, however, I will still be out on Friday, September 10th as my parents are taking a road trip across

[Shok_Tinoktin]

I have found an overlap between the two parts. Assuming the second half is accurate (there was no overlap that would confirm it), all I should need it the ending. So far it reads:

 

The new objective elipse thing makes it really hard to see. It's a major imparment to comb I know we've revisited it a ton of times but it just blocks out too much of the player's view to be helpful I'd suggest either a Halo style 3D world postition indicator or a 2D indicator at the top of the Based on our revised project schedule and after talking with Chris, its apparent that it would be good for the project if I delayed my upcoming vacation by a week. Thus, I will be gone from Monday, September 20th for 3 weeks, and will return on Monday, October 11th, however, I will still be out on riday, september 10th as my parents are taking a road trip across...

 

EDIT: I have found overlaps to confirm that this is accurate. Now we just need the end.

[BeBop]

Below is a post I posted in the first page of this topic. I didn't see the overlaps but I know I tranaslated all of it. The end of your missing piece is simply 'the country'

 

Originally posted by BeBop

 

I know we ve revisited it a ton of time but it just locks out too much of the playe's view to be helpful. I'd suggest either a Halo style 3D world indicator or a 2D indicato at the top of the Based on our Revised project schedule, and after talking with chris, its apparent that it would be good for the project if I delayed my upcoming vacation by a week. Thus I will be gone from monday September 20th for 3 Weeks and will return on Monday, October 11th However, I will still be out on riday, September 10th as my parents are taking a road trip across the country. The new objective elipse thing makes it really hard to see it's a major imparment to comb. (restarts at beginning)

[Shok_Tinoktin]

Interesting. So the text when you get incapped is the same as what the sniper rifle displays? When you get incapped, does it give you all the text at once, or is it in small pieces? The sniper rifle gives text only a few lines at a time, and sometimes begins and ends mid-word.

[BeBop]

As Far as I've seen, every time you get incapped, it will display all of the text scrolling on the top right of the screen. It scrolls rather fast, but it's the exact same. (Even the missing letters it seems like 'riday')