RevanA4 Posted April 30, 2005 Author Posted April 30, 2005 Originally posted by Korfredonn i dont know if there is a life on other planets, but there is no evidence that denies the existance of this life....anyway scince says that if there are certain basic things on some inviroment(those who Vladimir mentioned before) there is no reason to say that life does not exist on this inviroment, and religion tell us that God is all powerful, he can create thousand lifes in other planets...the Holy Qoran said: (for god has created heavens and earth, thus he can create another for he is the knowledgeful creator).... there is no proof that God exists people believe in him and there is no proof of UFO's but people still believe so what is your point and the fact is that the you have a better chance of winning the lottery every day for a year than there is of there not being life on other planets sorry to bring religion back into this cuz I don't believe in religion
stingerhs Posted April 30, 2005 Posted April 30, 2005 ^^^^ well, what's wrong with offering differing possibilities??? so far, there really is nothing to suggest that life exists on other planets. even whenever you say that there could be other means, you also outright admit that modern science cannot prove that life exists elsewheres. when you say that the chances of winning the lottery are smaller than life existing elsewhere in the galaxy, you're really saying that out of ignorance. since there is no logical way of deturmining the odds of life existing elsewhere, you're really saying that your thinking and assumptions revolve around the possibility that life more than likely exists on other worlds than our own. so, as preposterous as your statement is about the odds of the lottery being lower than the odds of life existing elsewhere, you still choose to berate other religions quite simply because you don't believe in them. no offense, but it sounds to me like your doing the same thing that us religious types are doing: making hypothetical assumptions as to what is possible concerning life existing elsewhere in the galaxy.
RevanA4 Posted April 30, 2005 Author Posted April 30, 2005 um no the universe is so big even the most powerful of our telescopes can't see past 2 galaxies and there is more beond that and there is a formula that calculates the odds of life being on other planets i saw it in one of my old math books
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 30, 2005 Posted April 30, 2005 Then perhaps you can find that old math book and post the formula?
stingerhs Posted April 30, 2005 Posted April 30, 2005 and i can guarentee you that the formula used in the textbook is based on hypothesis and conjecture, not even theory. why? because there is nothing within modern science that even suggests that life could exist elsewhere unless there was a planetary system that is almost completely identical to our own. you could attempt to calculate those odds, but at this point in time, there is no logical method to calculate the number of systems that even have orbitting sattelites in the form of planets. without the number of systems with planets, you have to rely on conjecture to calculate the odds. in the end, you have the odds calculated based on several hypothesis, not fact or theory. as i've stated earlier, a lot of your thinking is based on conjecture, not fact or even theory (which has some scientific basis to support it).
RevanA4 Posted April 30, 2005 Author Posted April 30, 2005 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad Then perhaps you can find that old math book and post the formula? that is impossible it belongs to my highschool and i've since graduated from college
RevanA4 Posted April 30, 2005 Author Posted April 30, 2005 Originally posted by stingerhs and i can guarentee you that the formula used in the textbook is based on hypothesis and conjecture, not even theory. why? because there is nothing within modern science that even suggests that life could exist elsewhere unless there was a planetary system that is almost completely identical to our own. you could attempt to calculate those odds, but at this point in time, there is no logical method to calculate the number of systems that even have orbitting sattelites in the form of planets. without the number of systems with planets, you have to rely on conjecture to calculate the odds. as i've stated earlier, a lot of your thinking is based on conjecture, not fact or even theory (which has some scientific basis to support it). to point out nasa has discover at least 3 planets that are capable of supporting life 1 that is 10 light years away and atleast 2 that are over 100 light years away so your statement is false and as an outerspace buff I keep track of all the latest developments in that area. so to say that they don't know of any planets that can support life is completely false and before you ask how they know this each element and mineral gives of a different wave lenght of light that lets scientists determine what element that it is so that is how they know that it can support life
stingerhs Posted April 30, 2005 Posted April 30, 2005 finally, some scientifically based theory!!! of course, if you could provide a couple of links, i would be more than happy to either concure with you or continue to disagree.
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 30, 2005 Posted April 30, 2005 Capable doesn't mean it does. I can do lots of things. I don't do everything I can. So do you. You have to read into it and look for a good interpretation. Sure, it means life MIGHT be possible on those planets but it hasn't been proven that it is. Until we encounter some aliens, there's no sure way of knowing this. Though there is nothing to back up my arguments, I believe that life exists on other planets.
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 30, 2005 Posted April 30, 2005 Originally posted by stingerhs of course, if you could provide a couple of links, i would be more than happy to either concure with you or continue to disagree. A quick search and I found some stuff. Courtesy of the NASA http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/starsgalaxies/frozenworlds.html
RevanA4 Posted April 30, 2005 Author Posted April 30, 2005 Originally posted by stingerhs finally, some scientifically based theory!!! of course, if you could provide a couple of links, i would be more than happy to either concure with you or continue to disagree. the last news about that was a few years ago so when I find some I will post them
RevanA4 Posted April 30, 2005 Author Posted April 30, 2005 ok here we go http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/news/expandnews.cfm?id=419 http://www.dhushara.com/book/quantcos/planets/planets.htm http://www.msi.umn.edu/~davey/lecture7.htm http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/2001/38/astrofile/ more to come as I come across them
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 30, 2005 Posted April 30, 2005 None of your links actually say that there's a planet out there capable of supporting life...
RevanA4 Posted May 1, 2005 Author Posted May 1, 2005 um finding info on a planet discovered 5 years ago is a hard thing to say the least and i monitor there progress very closely so if my word aint good enough for ya find it your self
lukeiamyourdad Posted May 1, 2005 Posted May 1, 2005 Well, you're the one who said that there was a discovery of that nature. The burden of finding proof is on you. You have to say where you found it or else, well...errr...
RevanA4 Posted May 1, 2005 Author Posted May 1, 2005 the news is where i found it gez and it was atleast 5 years ago
Vladimir-Vlada Posted May 1, 2005 Posted May 1, 2005 Hey, jedigoku... I found your high-school equation: Equation Proof of life supporting planets: Planets
lukeiamyourdad Posted May 1, 2005 Posted May 1, 2005 Now we're talking See, that's what people need. A few links and everything is fine.
Aristotélēsticus Posted May 1, 2005 Posted May 1, 2005 Originally posted by jedigoku there is no proof that God exists people believe in him and there is no proof of UFO's but people still believe so what is your point and the fact is that the you have a better chance of winning the lottery every day for a year than there is of there not being life on other planets sorry to bring religion back into this cuz I don't believe in religion Hey?!!!! you don’t have to insult me to show me your thoughts…..I was just trying to clear this subject from a certain point of view, and as we all accepted what you are and what you believe in , then you have to show us some respect too. You might not believe in God but you cant ignore all the people around the world whose believe in his existence, so low your temper down kid and thank your god(or whatever you believe in) that I am a very calm and friendly person because some people would hurt you if you insult their believes in this aggressive words.
RevanA4 Posted May 1, 2005 Author Posted May 1, 2005 dude that wasn't what i was doing gezz so calm down man all i was saying is that people don't need proof to believe in something I just used an example is all
Vladimir-Vlada Posted May 1, 2005 Posted May 1, 2005 dude that wasn't what i was doing gezz so calm down man all i was saying is that people don't need proof to believe in something I just used an example is all Exatcly.
Prime Posted May 1, 2005 Posted May 1, 2005 Play nicely, or we will have to close the thread. This is a warning.
Aristotélēsticus Posted May 1, 2005 Posted May 1, 2005 Originally posted by jedigoku dude that wasn't what i was doing gezz so calm down man all i was saying is that people don't need proof to believe in something I just used an example is all sorry, no hard feelings.
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