Darkkender Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Alright everybody I'm officially letting the cat out of the bag. I have begun the initial work on the Holowan Plugin for TSL. Many of you have been receiving PM's asking for permission to include your works in there. For those that have responded to these requests I "Thank You!" once again. Some of you may have missed your PM's or may not have gotten them. No worries though. I open this Thread forum to all of you who either did not get a PM or missed the one I sent. Anybody who I have not previously requested permission from and received permission from to use there work. You are welcome to either send me a PM requesting I include your work or you may post it within this thread. I only ask that you specify which works wether all or selected ones I may include and a link to where I may find them at. UPDATE: See last post for more details. The plugin is complete, I am simply awaiting an oppurtunity to upload the mod and then all can enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekoil Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 so u decided to listen to me after all lol i think some good mods to include would be those fixes from TSL restoration project website. that would be a good place to start i think. coz fixes are important T7 edit: The Edit buttons do work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunSolo Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 will it be like the other holowan plugins that u can choose the mods u want at installation? if thats so, will they all be made compatible in any way? if even thats so, ill die for downloadin this in a few months and yea, i definitly second that thought of rekoil, that would be a good point to start. i think the sabercore fix is a must, as well as the USM project would be a must to be included. plus some of the head plugs (i forgot who made them im sorry, but i love the ones wit the transitions and the twilek heads n all u guys made up ) n primes stormtrooper mod? maybe some reskins for HK like everytime. the mods for the lab n the workbench. the pink sabers crystals (for ppl like darth n me fo example ) achilles robe mod, rebalance mod, the hardcore mod of the other guy i forgot. that would me my list of 'holowan-plugin-must have's i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiko Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 @Darkkender Would you put in some of my two-toned sabers if I made them? I could also make some pink sabers also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 I'm glad you decided to do this project DK . I currently do not have anything released, but if you need anything for this mod, I will gladly lend assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennaida Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 That's something, when the resatoration project is done, people should be making sure that no mods conflict with it. Not sure how one might, but it bears saying, because the restoration project's work is going to almost certainly be standardized for TSL players, It's a 'must have', and essentially the content patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commas Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 i'm almost done with my exile robe, so i'm sure it'll be done before the deadline. its pretty much just in the final testing stages and such. but if you were to include it in the plugin i would feel honored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svösh Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Originally posted by FunSolo the USM project would be a must to be included. Um not to bust your bubble but the USM will be bigger files size then hl plug was ..so not a chance , nor do we want it to be. Besides DK can use the 2da from there for this so everything plays nice. With the new influx of mod theft we have to keep watch on where it’s uploaded. Besides it will be as big if not bigger then this hl plug as well. Perhaps some of you don’t understand it’s size but before final count we were over 1000 files and climbing. [ Force persuade ] So lets just forget that crazy idea [ /Force persuade ] < forget what ??? > [ ] svösh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Good point svosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatXL Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 With all of the inspiring mods being released for TSL, I think this will be the best plug-in to date. I guess for me, KOTOR I was shallow compared to KOTOR II. That gives way for alot better mods for KOTOR II. Having tons of them in one huge plug-in will be a dream for those who don't spend the time to combine .2da files. [off topic] (I will admit that I am one of them. I know it is probably an easy thing to learn, but when I sit down to do it, I always stop myself halfway through and do something else. Gah, why am I not laid back? It kills me inside. ) [/off topic] I would personally like to extend my thanks to Darkkender for putting the hard work into the plug-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunSolo Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Originally posted by svösh Um not to bust your bubble but the USM will be bigger files size then hl plug was ..so not a chance , nor do we want it to be. Besides DK can use the 2da from there for this so everything plays nice. With the new influx of mod theft we have to keep watch on where it’s uploaded. Besides it will be as big if not bigger then this hl plug as well. Perhaps some of you don’t understand it’s size but before final count we were over 1000 files and climbing. [ Force persuade ] So lets just forget that crazy idea [ /Force persuade ] < forget what ??? > [ ] svösh do i understood it right? theres a mb limit for the plugin? cause i wouldnt mind dl 500mb or more lol but if thats all a fact, i would say the 2da's of your project should be a must, cause i fell kinda in love wit the **** u doin wit the sabers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commas Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 don't forget prime's dark jedi conversion mod, that right there is a must have. but then you're probably also way ahead of me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkkender Posted May 12, 2005 Author Share Posted May 12, 2005 Well a few clarifications here. As svosh pointed out about the USM that mod by itself will be large enough not to have it included in the Holowan Plugin. Don't get me wrong I asked T7 about this very thing privately and actually hoped for the answer he gave me. That answer was "NO". I do however have the 2da's from the USM which was my first request from Chainz.2da prior to even aproaching anybody for permission to use there mods in this plugin. Also as a special note the current total of modders who have given there permission from private PM's totals more than 30 and I'm still waiting for about 10 responses. Add to this the feedback posted here already and you can guess where this is already going. @Funsolo--One of my plans will be for a selective install feature. However I will advise all I am actively converting and tweaking alot of elements to try to reduce the number of files in overide without reducing the mod content. Alot of the custom install features may be limited on what I can figure out about self extracting install files. Don't be surprised if the first release will have little or no selectability. However this Mod will be one that gets constantly updated. So even if selectability is limited in first release later releases with user feedback will be able to have better selectability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekoil Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 For the installer i reckon you could use either NSIS (NullSoft Install System) or Inno Setup coz they are both good and free. i think a good idea would be to have a NPC selection part where you could have like 30 or so NPCs to choose from to replace the original NPCs. Ie just change the name and apperence of them they could have same voice and dialogue etc. Edit: for file compression use 7z coz its like THE best compression system. sure it takes a while to unpack but were not in a hurry so we wont mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captivus Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Here are the mods tha I suggest : 1)Anakin Robe 2)Mandalore Helmet Mod 3)Young kreia mod 4)xc_mindprobe 5)Achilles Robe Mod 6)ss-prestige-padawans 7)ss-skip-peragus If I can suggest any of mine ones 1)Massive DS transition mod (darker faces flaming eyes changed portraits) 2) Party (kreia,mira,visas,handmaiden,atton,hanharr,hk-47, bao-dur) reskin (bearded atton, afro-american kreia, blonde handmaiden, rusty + metallic hk-47 and more) 3)Scarface (long-haired PC reskin with scars) 4)Exile clothes pack (changes clothes to onderon citizen clothes and onderon citisens robes to normal ones) 5)Anakin Skywalker episode III reskin (long-haired PC reskin ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkkender Posted May 13, 2005 Author Share Posted May 13, 2005 Originally posted by Captivus Here are the mods tha I suggest : 1)Anakin Robe 2)Mandalore Helmet Mod 3)Young kreia mod 4)xc_mindprobe 5)Achilles Robe Mod 6)ss-prestige-padawans 7)ss-skip-peragus If I can suggest any of mine ones 1)Massive DS transition mod (darker faces flaming eyes changed portraits) 2) Party (kreia,mira,visas,handmaiden,atton,hanharr,hk-47, bao-dur) reskin (bearded atton, afro-american kreia, blonde handmaiden, rusty + metallic hk-47 and more) 3)Scarface (long-haired PC reskin with scars) 4)Exile clothes pack (changes clothes to onderon citizen clothes and onderon citisens robes to normal ones) 5)Anakin Skywalker episode III reskin (long-haired PC reskin ) Are any of these your mods? If so which ones and can you provide a link to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captivus Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Are any of these your mods? If so which ones and can you provide a link to them Those are my mods you can use them if you want: 1)Massive DS transition mod (darker faces flaming eyes changed portraits) link: http://www.pcgamemods.com/11623/ screens: female: http://img185.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img185&image=female10ym.png http://img185.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img185&image=female26ys.png http://img185.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img185&image=female30sh.png male http://img185.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img185&image=pc17wu.png http://img185.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img185&image=pc27pp.png 2) Party (kreia,mira,visas,handmaiden,atton,hanharr,hk-47, bao-dur) reskin (bearded atton, afro-american kreia, blonde handmaiden, rusty + metallic hk-47 and more) link: http://www.pcgamemods.com/11815/ screens: atton http://img128.echo.cx/my.php?image=att12fr.png bao-dur http://img128.echo.cx/my.php?image=bao17ro.png handmaiden http://img128.echo.cx/my.php?image=h11ld.png mira http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=m19as.png hk-47 http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=hk16rf.png visas http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=v20cx.png Kreia http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=kreia12xn.png DS transitions( This is not all that I included in the mod but it shows how this works): atton http://img128.echo.cx/my.php?image=att29ki.png http://img128.echo.cx/my.php?image=att36ro.png Handmaiden http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=h21ra.png http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=h35va.png 3)Scarface (long-haired PC reskin with scars) link: http://www.pcgamemods.com/11512/ screens: http://img40.exs.cx/img40/378/scar17lc.png 4)Exile clothes pack (changes clothes to onderon citizen clothes and onderon citisens robes to normal ones) link: http://www.pcgamemods.com/11591/ screens: http://img227.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img227&image=17ev.png http://img227.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img227&image=24fa.png http://img227.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img227&image=33oc.png http://img227.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img227&image=49il.png http://img227.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img227&image=50zh.png 5)Anakin Skywalker episode III reskin (long-haired PC reskin ) link: http://www.pcgamemods.com/11570/ screens: http://img42.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img42&image=a14ut.png http://img42.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img42&image=a27xc.png http://img42.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img42&image=a39vl.png PS. I'm also doing SWheads (leia luke, obi-wan etc.) mod but I don't know how lond will it take me - I'm kind of busy right now .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Originally posted by Captivus 7)ss-skip-peragus This is not the kind of mod that will likely conflict with other mods and I am not sure everyone wants to have a big part of the game removed (I do like Peragus). I don't think it should be included in the HL plug-in. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiko Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Me too Darth333:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekoil Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 i agree with her too. but you could put it in as an option thats not installed with a typical install. i mean it only takes lyk what 10kb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkkender Posted May 13, 2005 Author Share Posted May 13, 2005 I'm very much in agreance with you Darth333. Mods that drastically alter gameplay or cut corners are not likely to be included at all. However The idea of those being selective install features might be an option. I would like to point out for others that if they are going to ask for inclusion of mods that they be mods they have done. Skip Peragus is a mod done by SuperSquall which requires his permission to use the mod. Since it is not the type of mod I even download I hadn't previously persued asking to include this mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 I have six revamped and new mods in progress, which you can pick and choose from. However, remember what I said, at the end of next weekend they will be uploaded to PCGM.COM. I still have some classes to finish up for the year. Here is a link to my: [W.I.P] http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148385 Here is a link to my: PCGM.COM http://www.pcgamemods.com/u/5535/ FYI - Next week, the size of the uploaded Telos Pack: Set I & II combined with upgrades will be 4MB. They will be in one Zip, but they will have their own folders to seperate the sets. Pick and choose.... Most of all... HAVE FUN WITH CREATING YOUR PLUG-IN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkkender Posted May 13, 2005 Author Share Posted May 13, 2005 Originally posted by MacLeodCorp Pick and choose.... Most of all... HAVE FUN WITH CREATING YOUR PLUG-IN! No worries about when your uploading because that falls well within the cutoff deadline I posted above. FYI: I'm already having fun creating the plugin. Including trying out different self extracting archive utilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekoil Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 use 7z. best compression. but i reckon you should use Inno Setup as the install program you can put my dual-color double-bladed lightsabres into the game if you wanna. screens and dld @ this thread T7 Edit: The Edit buttons do work. Edit: omg your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkkender Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 I want to once again Thanks. Everybody who has so far offered there mods to be added to this project or given there permission to use there mods. At this time I would like to extend an invintation to anybody who is good with graphic arts or even wanting to try there hand at something with image work. I would like to have some custom loading screens to replace some of the default Load screens. What is asked for on these custom loading screens, you might ask. Well the following. It needs to say loading of course. It should advertise that this is the TSL Holowan Plugin in some manner. It should say who it is by.(Everybody deserves to publicize themselves.) It should have a creative flare giving that wow effect. Simply post your contribution as a jpeg in this thread as I will go ahead and insert them into the game as TGA's. You may also send me a PM with the image if you don't want others to see your work untill the Plugins release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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