Redtech Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Well, his accent is really "sterotypical Jamaican" unless you're one of those people who believes in sterotypes IMHO. I mean, how many people have talked to a Jamaican? They don't talk like that. Saying that, as far as "backwards speak". I think Lucas just wanted everyone to have f-ed up ways of talking and that might have associations. It's kinda sad that we can label a whole group of people as being like Gungans!
El Sitherino Posted December 7, 2005 Author Posted December 7, 2005 The **** is backwards speak? If you mean Yoda's speaking format, it's called formal speaking.
Kurgan Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 The **** is backwards speak? If you mean Yoda's speaking format, it's called formal speaking. Many formal speakers have I heard, and never spoken this way have they. Mine! Or I will help you not...
Redtech Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 I meant "mentally backwards". Formal speaking is posh. Unless you can convince me that the Gungans are intellectualls!
El Sitherino Posted December 8, 2005 Author Posted December 8, 2005 Wesa no needin da naboo, deys a tinkin our brainsa so small.
Kurgan Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 Yoda simply makes use of bad grammar. His speech isn't always backwards, so it's not like he's incapable (note the scene where he talks to Anakin in that closet in ROTS and gives him the "let go" advice). You'd think of being around people who speak "perfect" english (or basic, whatever) for centuries would have taught him how to speak properly, but oh well. Maybe he's a bit senile... adds character.
El Sitherino Posted December 8, 2005 Author Posted December 8, 2005 He's over 800 years old, he speaks how he was taught, formal speech. Listen to Frank Oz's interview on the OT DVD.
Kurgan Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 He's over 800 years old, he speaks how he was taught, formal speech. Listen to Frank Oz's interview on the OT DVD. I don't see how using backwards grammar constitutes "formal speech." I've often heard the excuse that 'Galactic Basic' is not his native language (sort of like with Jar Jar) so he has some trouble with it. But you'd think that after 800 years of training Jedi he'd have adapted to the conventions of the official language of Coruscant... I mean if Celine Dion can mastered it in far less time... Then we have that whole scene in ROTS where he speaks properly for quite a stretch. How is it "formal"? He's almost always talking privately with individuals, after all. Anyway, can you tell us where on the OT DVD's this interview can be found? I don't feel like watching all 3 1/2 hours of Empire of Dreams again to find it (or worse, all 6+ hours of audio commentary), no offense!
SirLancelot Posted December 10, 2005 Posted December 10, 2005 LOL! sometimes the insightful intelligence of people in this forum just amazes me. /sarcasm off I remember someone trying to compare Bush to Sauron in the LOTR. Jeez. . .
Redtech Posted December 10, 2005 Posted December 10, 2005 Hey it's easy, they both want to kill us all! It makes me glad not to be American, no one gives a fung about our "leaders".
Kurgan Posted December 10, 2005 Posted December 10, 2005 LOL! sometimes the insightful intelligence of people in this forum just amazes me. /sarcasm off I remember someone trying to compare Bush to Sauron in the LOTR. Jeez. . . What's wrong with that? Every evil/dictator character in a fantasy movie is an allegory of Bush!
El Sitherino Posted December 11, 2005 Author Posted December 11, 2005 I don't see how using backwards grammar constitutes "formal speech." It's based on old speech patterns from medival times, called Formal Speech, it's how the royals, and people speaking to them, would speak. Anyway, can you tell us where on the OT DVD's this interview can be found? I don't feel like watching all 3 1/2 hours of Empire of Dreams again to find it (or worse, all 6+ hours of audio commentary), no offense! It's in Empire of Dreams, around the bit when they're talking about making Yoda.
Kurgan Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 Wow, how did I miss this? Amazing. Personally it sounds like BS to me (Yoda's speech is all over the place throughout the movies after all), but who knows. Can you be a little more specific? What chapter stop or time reference is it at? I plan to watch the whole thing again one day, but I just don't have time, so a little closer to the mark would great. Thanks!
SirLancelot Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 What's wrong with that? Every evil/dictator character in a fantasy movie is an allegory of Bush! Riiiiigggght. Hey, I'm selling my beachfront condo in Tucson, Arizona. I'll throw in the deed to the Grand Canyon if you buy now.
Good Sir Knight Posted December 22, 2005 Posted December 22, 2005 It all depends on your point of view. I'm not a neocon or a lib and I think that if it was truely Lucas' intent he would fail miserably just like the rest of the ideologues in hollywood. except for Mel and Depp perhaps.... It's pretty sad to see our country so divided that it's leaked into star wars discussion forums, I talk about star wars to avoid that stuff!
Redtech Posted December 22, 2005 Posted December 22, 2005 I'm neutral, gives me the freedom to realise everyone else is a jackass to some extent.
SirLancelot Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 It's pretty sad to see our country so divided that it's leaked into star wars discussion forums, I talk about star wars to avoid that stuff! Not divided, just some people have nothing better to do than read subliminal messages that are not there. The internet has exacerbated people's crackpot theories.
Cercueil Posted December 28, 2005 Posted December 28, 2005 when 800 years you have been around...how you wish you will speak. we sometimes put to much thought in how someone says something and very little into what they are saying.
grunty Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 I support most anything anti-Bush, but I just don't see the connection. It's inconclusive.
Obi-Wan Jones Posted January 1, 2006 Posted January 1, 2006 People really need to stop bashing the president. Whether people agree with his views/actions, what good does bashing him do? None. I don't know whether or not I think Star Wars is "anti-Bush," but it's my favorite film series so I'm not worried about it.
Redtech Posted January 1, 2006 Posted January 1, 2006 Could argue "what's the point of voting", but I'm an apathist, so what do I know? As for Ep 3, love the beginning, love the end, a bit "meh" to everything else.
Obi-Wan Jones Posted January 1, 2006 Posted January 1, 2006 It could've been better but I'm satisfied with the outcome.
Darth_Death Posted January 7, 2006 Posted January 7, 2006 well whoever started this papeltine Bush thing is just trying to make him look bad just like all of the media
Nedak Posted January 7, 2006 Posted January 7, 2006 well whoever started this papeltine Bush thing is just trying to make him look bad just like all of the media Maybe it has to do with maybe everyone hating Bush... But thats just my opinion =-P. Plus Bush uses fear to get support from the American public and so does Sidious a little bit.
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