popcorn2008 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 The game does not end at ANH. The tech tree ends there(to a point) There is no ANH! You make your own story! Why don't you people get that! Okay, first off yes the game does end at ANH, even if you do make your own story. If the tech tree ends there then so does the game in a sense. NO ONE said that it meant that the whole game ends at ANH, we arent complaining about that. WE are complaining that the game is lacking in content. Get your rants right. I also agree, I am starting to get turned off as well. The SSD and TIE Interceptor were major expectations from me. As of now the content seems WAY lacking. Petro and LA better release more details about the game, such as missions or something. Or they better release some new content fast because im starting to lose my intereast. I have also done a bit of research and found that TIE Interceptors were used in the Battle of Yavin. Link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIE_interceptor If you do not wish to read through all this here is the paragraph I found that stated it was used. Not many people consider Wikipedia the best source. It is an open editing encyclopedia. Also its sources are not the best. Not many people consider the Star Wars RPG accurate or the source books. I mean just look what the source book said about the SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Now this is almost too odd. Why was it done this way? I simply don't know why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmarenny Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I think this a good thing. It will make iteisier to include a mix of OT and Prequel mech in the game. I'm still hoping for an Impirial Gunship and Venator SD and if I must wait for an expantion to throw the fear of god into rebel players with the Executor then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 We'll have to wait and see, but forcing us to fork out more money isn't good (for us). Unless mommy and daddy pay you everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 A-Wings are in! We have seen it in the screen shots and movies! The game does not end at ANH. The tech tree ends there(to a point) There is no ANH! You make your own story! Why don't you people get that! -Dorkthehunter "Protecting the world from people with an IQ if over 30! Hazah! Because Delphi, a Petroglyph employee, said so. Here, let me quote that again: The game ends at the battle of Yavin Now, could he have misstyped something? Possibly. But they have been very silent about it since we heard it will end at ANH. They haven't exactly gone out of their ways to correct the statement so far. I'm planing on raising the question at the chat in a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garbageben Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 The way that I read it the first time (Delphi's quote) was that the game just stopped when you reached the battle of Yavin (although I am somewhat confused on how the battle of Yavin could exist if the rebel player were to just ignore the planet), but it could also mean that the latest tech. you will have access to will be from the battle of Yavin or thereabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Alec Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Get your rants right. He he... people ranting ranters. That you dont see everyday. Unless mommy and daddy pay you everything... Whats so bad about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripmaster Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 What do you mean by stopping at Yavin? They have Kyle Katarn as hero for crying out loud. With a BLUE lightsaber. Frankly, the whole thing is starting to confuse me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Whats so bad about that? The fact that you don't realize the value of 40$ if your parents pay you everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naja Posted October 15, 2005 Author Share Posted October 15, 2005 This is bull****. I hope someone mods in these missing ships soon after EaW is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 So people are starting to think this game might suck? I seem to recall someone saying that a while ago. Who was it? Oh, thats right, me. Love to say I told you so...so, I told you so Really though, although I knew they weren't going to include the Republic and Seperatists, but to only half-arse the Empire and Rebellion at the same time is inexcusable. Pity, I thought LA and the remnants of Westwood would have been able to do so much better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 The quote I gave is probably a huge missunderstanding. That was also what sparked the whole SSD being in debate aswell, so it's possible. But what is for sure, is that the Tech Tree stops at around ANH, plus a few extra ships that came out shortly after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 They clearly stated the timelines at press release I don't see why everyone has there panties in a twist about it now. Haha and all of you are hypocrits going off at me for seeing issues with gameplay from the start and now they are hurting your precious realism you are all like OMG!!. I hate to say I told you so.... ohh wait I just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DarthMaulUK Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 So people are starting to think this game might suck? I seem to recall someone saying that a while ago. Who was it? Oh, thats right, me. Love to say I told you so...so, I told you so How on earth can you make such a sweeping statement considering that you havent even played the game? Just because the Super Stardestroyer isn't in the game doesnt mean that people have to hate it or react like a few of you have been. The fact new styled ships have been created is for the modders out there to have some fun and looking at some of the work, they are! The timeline has always been set just before A New Hope, meaning that you can change the way that history plays out and I welcome any expansion pack with addition worlds and ships. The one thing with any Star Wars game, is the timeline. One of the reasons why KOTOR was such a huge hit was because it set itself 4000 years before movies - giving it a huge scope to play with. However, when you focus on the movie timelines, of course some are not going to be happy with that but lets open up your imaginations out there as this game is there to create your own Star Wars world; and unlike Star Wars Galaxies; have fun doing it. DMUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 They clearly stated the timelines at press release I don't see why everyone has there panties in a twist about it now. Haha and all of you are hypocrits going off at me for seeing issues with gameplay from the start and now they are hurting your precious realism you are all like OMG!!. I hate to say I told you so.... ohh wait I just did. Err, no they didn't. Go read it again. No, nevermind, let me help you. It says, and I quote: Set a few years before the events of Episode IV A New Hope ... Let me quote that again: Set a few years before the events of Episode IV A New Hope ... Now, nowhere in the press release does it say the game will end at ANH. I can quote both Press Releases in their entirety if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmarenny Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 So people are starting to think this game might suck? I seem to recall someone saying that a while ago. Who was it? Oh, thats right, me. Love to say I told you so...so, I told you so Really though, although I knew they weren't going to include the Republic and Seperatists, but to only half-arse the Empire and Rebellion at the same time is inexcusable. Pity, I thought LA and the remnants of Westwood would have been able to do so much better... Dont be so silly! This is still a bad reason to to hate it. Its isn't half-assed. They just choose a stopping point. How terrible. Though I am glad you posted so I could tell you how stupid your otherarguement was. The Republic becomes the empire. Having a game(like this wheretime goes on as you play) with both of them would be redundant and stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 So people are starting to think this game might suck? I seem to recall someone saying that a while ago. Who was it? Oh, thats right, me. Love to say I told you so...so, I told you so See, there's a difference between us and you. You said the game would suck before having sufficient information. We do however have enough information to make a relatively good judgement about the possible content. Though, like I said, I'm giving them the benifit of the doubt. I have some doubts now about the game and I do hope it will turn out alright. I'll have to note that this isn't an issue with the SSD though, more talking about overall content. The non-inclusion of various post ANH units like the B-Wing or Tie Interceptor for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DarthMaulUK Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 I'm not a fan of closing posts so lets try not to get too personal here and keep on topic DMUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcorn2008 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 If this game doesnt go so far on the timeline, then I am looking foward to good content and missions. I wont get too mad because this game looks far better than ANY Star Wars RTS ever released. Even though the technology may end at ANH. Also.... check this out: With that said, it does not mean it couldn’t make it into the game down the road for multiplayer or future expansions. That is from the Petro developers original post. Now that means the executor may be included in multiplayer at least. So maybe this woke them up that many people are expecting this and they are gonna add it in for at least multiplayer. On the other hand, he also said future expansion. So we will have to spend 39-49 dollars for an expansion. I am guessing they will do an expansion up to RoTJ. Then maybe later do a clone wars expansion. Now because the release date was pushed all the way to febuary, and now we now the tech tree wont be as big as everyone thought, I am expecting great game features and missions and all that. If the game doesnt have good/or enough content then I will be SEVERLY disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernaut1985 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 They'll do a Clone Wars expansion first if any becuase of the prequel trilogy being fresh in everyone's minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 I've heard them state that it is after ROTS and before ANH in a few Q&A and interviews. If you want to see the movie battles go watch the movie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcorn2008 Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 They'll do a Clone Wars expansion first if any becuase of the prequel trilogy being fresh in everyone's minds. I'm not sure, because that would require almost three times as much work as a RoTJ expansion. I mean you have to add two more teams with their own base units. But with an RoTJ expansion all they have to do is add a few more units and features to an already existing side. I foresee a RoTJ expansion to be announced around summer 2006 and then released maybe winter 2006. Then a clone war expansion. Of course you do have a point with the prequels still being on peoples minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naja Posted October 16, 2005 Author Share Posted October 16, 2005 I still hope (if they indeed do a ROTJ type expansion), that it STARTS before Episode IV would have ended. That way, Tarkin would still be alive, the Death Star would not have been destroyed, it would truly be with a clean slate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 Well the thing is, I said before that this game will suck and everything I have seen has confirmed my first suspicions. - First off, about a prequel expansion pack, that would be blatant prifiteering. Fact is, they should have added the Republic and Seperatists in the first place. After all, even GBG had six sides when it originally came out, which was before AotC. In that case, an expansion was warrented, in this case it is not. - Having two civs, which look like they will be incomplete, is inexcusable. Not only are we going to have very little replay value, but we are getting things like the Moc Cal/Frigate Mutant Ship, and the Empire's 'super-Hover Tank in Space' instead of the SSD, B-wing etc. Not good enough. - So much for 'create your own history'. I must say, one of the things about this sort of game that annoys me the most is having them end at some point. That is why I love 'Star Trek: Birth of the Federation'. The game can go for ages, and only ends when either you are defeated, or you win. Making it end arbitrarily leaves things incomplete and just feels wrong. I could go on, but there isn't much point. Suffice to say that I hoped that post-GBG we would see a great SW RTS that would include the four important sides and do it well. I thought, and still do think, that Petroglyph is capable of that, but having been dissapointed by Lucasarts before (eg. releasing KotOR2 before it was finished) I can't say I'm all that suprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naja Posted October 16, 2005 Author Share Posted October 16, 2005 I'm dissapointed too about the "create your own history" section being dashed too, I must say, but it is far too premature to know whether the game will suck or not. This game does seem to have some innovative and fun features, and we'll have to wait and see. Mods can accomodate whatever ships and other units were left out of the two factions. I fail to see though why the game should have had the Republic and the Separatists - the damn thing starts just a little before Episode IV! The Empire has been well established from the corpse of the Republic, and the Separatists erased. So now that you're convinced the game will suck, will we no longer have to put up with your incessant bitching and whining on this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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