Justus Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 So, was the 501st on the Battle of Hoth given the name Blizzard Force? Or were they merely sent in as a supliment to General Veers Blizzard Force troops? Meaningless question yes, but just curious.
Arcane_Penguin Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Blizzard was the name for the AT-ATs PS: finnally registered after a month,
Justus Posted January 3, 2006 Author Posted January 3, 2006 The Snowtroopers were designated Blizzard Force, according to EU and Starwars.com. They were assigned to General Veers and Death Squadron.
Master William Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 One thing is certain, the 501st fought their last battle on Hoth.
PoiuyWired Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 I thought 501st is also on Endor?? o.O Or at least, part of it. 501st under Vader is it not?
Justus Posted January 4, 2006 Author Posted January 4, 2006 I was really looking forward to a 501st Endor mission, and maybe have some missions that take place before Endor would've been really fun, it's a shame that the SP campaign ends with the Battle of Hoth.
MachineCult Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 The 501st missions are called "Rise of the Empire", the Empire fell as a result of the Battle of Endor.
Justus Posted January 4, 2006 Author Posted January 4, 2006 Maybe, but there aren't many SP levels.. which seems to be a trend these days in gaming. Easy to cop out and say "rise of th Empire, we'll just leave it at the Battle of Hoth."
Darth MarcII Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 The 501st was not on Endor. Their last major campaign was on Hoth.
Justus Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 So what were the 501st doing in the waning years of the Empire? Just kicking it on Star Destroyers? Many battles left to be fought after Hoth, did they accompany Vader to Bespin? Leaves many questions unanswered, I suppose it is up to the modding community to fill in those gaps. From what I understood the 501st served the Empire until after the battle of Endor, where they eventually disolved after the death of the Empreror and Vader, after that they disentigrated into the power struggles of various Imperial Officers that tried to resurrect the Empire. Also Thrawn resurrected the 501st in name only.
The Death Star Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Leaving the game at Hoth could leave oppurtunity for a BF3. Perhaps it could be " Birth of the Rebellion" mode?
ParanoidAndroid Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Hoth was probably their last battle of great recognition, before they retired (clones don't live forever after all.) I mean better to leave the campaign on an epic note, then some unimportant minor raid. That being said a campaign for the birth of the rebellion would be cool, maybe beginning on the Tantive IV, where you have to ensure certain droids escape imperial hands, to the climactic battle above Endor and the fall of the Empire, that would be a cool campaign.
PoiuyWired Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Well yes ending the story on Hoth is a right choice... its more fun to finish thwe story mode in glory rather than getting speared to death by a bunch of oversized furbys...
ParanoidAndroid Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Was the 501st on Endor? I thought that was another of the empires finest legions, not the 501st. I was under the impression they retired from service before the battle of Endor, read it somewhere I think. But yeah that would have been a really degrading final mission. Defeated by the vicious feral carebears of Endor.
Justus Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 What I have read on Starwars.com is that they served the Empire through the Battle of Endor, whether or not they were at the battle of Endor is anyone's guess... I would imagine they would have been, unless they were reassigned to another commander that wasn't present at Endor. The game TIE Fighter had you fighting up till the last days of the Empire, BF2 could've handled it in a similar fashion. I do admit that some of those later TIE Fighter missions, especially in Defender of the Empire expansion pack got a bit intense, but it was interesting to be under the gun like that.
PoiuyWired Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 ParanoidAndroid said: Was the 501st on Endor? I thought that was another of the empires finest legions, not the 501st. I was under the impression they retired from service before the battle of Endor, read it somewhere I think. But yeah that would have been a really degrading final mission. Defeated by the vicious feral carebears of Endor. Yeah... Empire's "Finest" Legions... I wish they were retired before Endor though in my heart, then they do not have to see the Empire slipping out of their hands. Endor have no king, Endor NEEDS no King.
TK-8252 Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 A lot (most) of SWBF2 material is not canon and directly contradicts established canon (such as Blizzard Force being on Hoth), so I can safely say that the 501st being on Hoth is wrong. The 501st is Stormtroopers anyway, not Snowtroopers.
JetTrooper13 Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Snowtroopers are just Stormtroopers outfitted for cold weather. That's all.
Justus Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 True, but Blizzard Force was specifically trained for harsh conditions, additionally they are trained to work along with AT-AT's and AT-ST's on assault missions, they don't use stealth, they just go in knock the planet out and leave basically.
TK-8252 Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 JetTrooper13 said: Snowtroopers are just Stormtroopers outfitted for cold weather. That's all. Wrong. They are an entirely different corps with different training and different duties. It's like Army and Marines; some people might confuse the two, but in reality they are not interchangable.
ParanoidAndroid Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Quote Yeah... Empire's "Finest" Legions... Lol, yeah, the emperor did say he had his best troops waiting for the rebels on the planet. The 501st might have been stationed with Vader on his SSD, or maybe they were somewhere else. I guess the 501st never was officially on Hoth, maybe a certain detachment was outfitted speacially for the mission to support Blizzard force. After all they did accompany Vader everywhere, it's possible I suppose. I think it's without a doubt just another innaccuracy made for the sake of the campaign. They did this alot, have the 501st supporting another battalion of troops, not exactly canon, but at least it doesn't go right out and claim that is was all the 501st, and the other troops arn't even their.
PoiuyWired Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 Well, snowtroopers, sandtroopers, swamptroopers... and other variants, they are all different. Now 501st is more like a commando group, so It won't be strange if some of them are on Hoth... though the majority of the assault would be via standard snowtroopers. Its like, if the recon commandos are in a battle... doesn't mean that a WHOLE ARMY of recon commandos is fighting there (lets ignore the fact that where in hail can you find army of recons)
MachineCult Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 Weren't the troopers on Hoth under the command of General Veers and not Darth Vader, and therefore not the 501st.
pcd927 Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 Good point. I think you're right. Darth Vader was elsewhere and couldn't command the troopers on Hoth.
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