da horror Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hello everybody, i am new to the forum and from germany, so excuse me for my bad english. Yesterday i realized, that in the blue casket you can hear someone smokin a bong. Sorry, thought perhaps it could be interesting and funny, ...viva la beatniks then last a question: depends the kind of flowers, wich comes up when someone is sprouded (sorry for my bad english once again), on the kind of person, means: A nice persons gets roses, A bad guy gets sunflowers for example because the don said something like i expected blalaflower when he shot the chef of domino and manny at the dod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuz Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hahaha, I'll have to check out the Blue casket again and have a listen. I didn't really notice the flowers. But it's probably true. BTW your english isn't that bad. I wish I could speak another language as well as you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNaomi Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I think Hector's exact words were something along the line of "For some reason I was expecting [insert flower here]." I think it indicates that he thought that whateve her was expecting suited Don's personality. So that would indicate that the flowers are determined by your personality, as you said. However, what I find more likely is that the different flowers are caused by the sproutella. Perhaps there are many "flavours"? After all, Salvador and Olivia were sprouted with the same sproutella, and they both got red flowers even though one was noble and one was evil. Also, Manny was sprouted by slow acting sproutella and got a blue flower. Lola's death took really long compared to Don Copal (so it's safe to bet that she also was shot with the slow stuff) and she got blue flowers as well. Or perhaps there is no formula at all and it depends on what mood the animators were in at the moment. Who knows? And don't worry about your English! Es ist zweimal besser als mein Deutsch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrik Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I was thinking it was down to the original sproutella rather than the victim too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klia Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hector's line involved tulips I believe. When I heard the line I just thought he expected that the package he got was tulips. However since it is not clearly defined one could take it that it depends on the person's personality...which makes the death ; dare I say it... "romantic" in a sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JofaGuht Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 "hmmm...marigolds. For some reason I was expecting tulips." I believe was the line. Though "Blalaflower" is my new favorite word. I don't know. What flowers were Lola? As for the bong thing, I'm not doubting that there was a time in Tim Schafer's life where he was a "psychonaut" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNaomi Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I don't know what exact flower Lola got, but it was the same as Manny, as evidenced here and here. Any florists around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Virus Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I always thought those were violets or a mixture between those and phloxes. As for the question, the first time I played it I thought that it had to do with the personality of the person; but after some re-plays I now believe that it has to do with the type of Sproutella (The fact that everyone in the field had the same flower made me wonder).There must be some hidden simbolysm, though. Bowsley seemed to have messed the type of ammuntion several times, so I guess Hector's comment had to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoidish Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I beleive you guys have really good theories on why, but could it be due to what day it was? I beleive Don got sprouted on the Dia de los Muertos; the day of the Dead. Yellow Marigolds are very symbolic during this period and are offered to dead loved ones. The scent is believed to attract the souls of the dead and bring them back. But if that is true, the flowers only pushed Don further away from existence. (I have no clue what happens to the person after they get sprouted). And also, why would Tim Schaffer use flowers as a sign of death within death when in the Mexican tradition it is believed to bring them closer to the land of the living? And doesn't anyone find it funny that on Dia de Los Muertos they honor the dead with candy calaveras (I've had one...not too good), pan de muertos (also a bit tasteless), cempazuchitl (yellow marigolds), and poems about the afterlife. All of these were present in the game. And I don't want to sound like a snob pushing all this information on the board. I wouldn't even know half of this stuff if it wasn't for my Spanish teacher incessantly hammering this into my memory. Oh, and a little trip over to Wikipedia didn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNaomi Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Everybody was shot on the Day of the Dead because that's the day when the events of all years take place. At least the first two, but I don't see why the last two would be any different. You aren't being a snob at all. Your post included some info that I hadn't known before (like the meaning of flowers in Mexican tradition) and everything related to Grim Fandango is worth knowing. If you have any other details, go on and share them with us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoidish Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Everybody was shot on the Day of the Dead because that's the day when the events of all years take place. At least the first two, but I don't see why the last two would be any different. You aren't being a snob at all. Your post included some info that I hadn't known before (like the meaning of flowers in Mexican tradition) and everything related to Grim Fandango is worth knowing. If you have any other details, go on and share them with us! Oh, I would love to. Unfortunatly that's all I know of the Day of the Dead off the top of my head. Although, I could do more research but I'm afraid that wouldn't yield much more results. I guess, if I really wanted to I could hitch a plane over to Mexico and go see what it is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNaomi Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I guess, if I really wanted to I could hitch a plane over to Mexico and go see what it is like. We could all go and have a huge Grim Fandango convention on the Day of the Dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoidish Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 We could all go and have a huge Grim Fandango convention on the Day of the Dead! Haha, all five of us that is. (Just joking). I'm actually quite fascinated with Spanish/Mexican culture. It seems quite livley and spirited as compared to sometimes pessimistic views over where I am in America. Out or during college I was thinking of taking a trip over there, if nothing more than to expand my knowledge of the Spanish language. (But don't ask me to speak any for you. I'm very particular about it and am nowhere near good enough to speak fluently or make any sense at all.) That or go to Italy. I'm a sucker for architecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubacava Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 We could all go and have a huge Grim Fandango convention on the Day of the Dead! Lets! Lets! Lets! Okay, so were all in different countries and such... but uh... lets do so anyway! somehow! And I seriously doubt that there is illegal drug use going on in there. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuz Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 And I seriously doubt that there is illegal drug use going on in there. :/ C'mon everyone smokes in the Land of the Dead, it only makes sense that the beatnik types would add a little wacky to their tabaccy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago C. Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I been absent for a long time, but I´m back! I didn´t notice the bong in the blue casket, nor the flowers detail. But I think I´m going to play it for the fifth time to get some good details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klia Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 This thread amuses me greatly. Some people have taken it upon themselves to research and come up with explanations on someone "puffin a bong". And isn't this board like a mini convention of Grim Fandango-just digitally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimfan Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 C'mon everyone smokes in the Land of the Dead, it only makes sense that the beatnik types would add a little wacky to their tabaccy Haa I definately agree. But also keep in mind it could be the sound of a hookah (them thing the caterpillar smokes in Alice In Wonderland). For some reason I associate a hooker more with these beatniks than a bong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuz Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Ah yes maybe a hookah (or shisha). But it still doesn't stop them from smoking weed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimfan Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Ah yes maybe a hookah (or shisha). But it still doesn't stop them from smoking weed Ofcourse. They are beatniks ofcourse. Another point to note is the fact that if you examine the dirty sink water Manny says "It's dirty hookah water" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuz Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 oh god of course! I never even thought of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroman3000 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 ahah I wish someone went upto Manny and said "I dare you to drink it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_judge Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I wonder how will the victims be after being sprouted???? Forever stayed in this "middle-world"? (I said t to myself it's middle because it's the place between heaven - hell - Earth). The idea about flower in GF was very creative! I wonder how is the world inside Tim Schafer? Won't hurt if I jump into his mind like Raz? Teeheehee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewlil Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 lol who cares about the flowers?! theyre just flowers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewlil Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 oh and also arent the body's in the morgue and the sailors ones like a mixture of em? Just trying to throw you off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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