Point Man Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 In your first conversation with Canderous, you can get him to tell you, "The Sith came to us with an offer to fight against a worthy opponent in a battle that would be remembered forever." My question is this: who were these Sith? Was it "The True Sith" from the Unknown Regions? Was it the Sith Lords from the Trayus Academy you meet in TSL? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shem Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 (Canderous in Mandalorian Armor) Yes, these are the Sith that Revan went to find. The war offer to the Mandalorians was done to weaken the Republic before they attack. It's not the same Sith from the Trayus Academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Man Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Yes, these are the Sith that Revan went to find. The war offer to the Mandalorians was done to weaken the Republic before they attack. It's not the same Sith from the Trayus Academy. So you think Sion, Nihilus, and Traya were just opportunists who took advantage of the Republic's weakened state after the Jedi Civil War? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shem Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 So you think Sion, Nihilus, and Traya were just opportunists who took advantage of the Republic's weakened state after the Jedi Civil War? Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadi Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 So you think Sion, Nihilus, and Traya were just opportunists who took advantage of the Republic's weakened state after the Jedi Civil War? Remember Sion and Nihilus were born of the Mandalorian War. Traya was their, or at least, Sion's Master/teacher. They all were Jedi at one point in time or at least Traya was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shem Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I do remember in KOTOR when Canderous having the Sith come to the Mandalorians with an offer and that got me to thinking. Who are these Sith? Because Revan and Malak had not yet joined the Dark Side. Something didn't add up for me at that time. When TSL took another step and got deeper, I started to understand it better. Sith are Sith to Canderous. He doesn't see it as the true Sith. At least not yet. When Revan and Malak attacked the Republic, he just saw at as the Sith returning, which in a way they did, just not the true Sith in which we keep hearing about. The Mandalorians did learn an important lesson. At least Canderous did when working or making deals with them. And Canderous goes on saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Hey Shem, where did you find a red Mandalorian armor for Canderous? Is that some kind of mod? I only found the blue one (at the Rakatan planet). Back on topic: Yeah, the Sith that came to the Mandalorians with a war offer were definitely the True Sith - Canderous' reference to the Sith retreating to their empire and Kreia's reference to the True Sith empire proves this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shem Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Hey Shem, where did you find a red Mandalorian armor for Canderous? Is that some kind of mod? I only found the blue one (at the Rakatan planet). I made a mod where Canderous wears Red Mandalorian Assault Armor. You can get it HERE (click me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vibro Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I believe it was the "true" Sith. As mentioned earlier, Sion and Nihillus were spawned by the Mandelorian Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevro Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 i just bought KOTOR and i cant get into the Vulker base and when i go the Undercity the game automaticly shuts down like a virus or something and i can't get it to stop know what to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mandalore Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 i just bought KOTOR and i cant get into the Vulker base and when i go the Undercity the game automaticly shuts down like a virus or something and i can't get it to stop know what to do Wrong forum. Technical difficulties go here: http://www.lucasforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=554 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevro Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Where can i update KOTOR better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Where can i update KOTOR better jevro Do not post in an inappropriate forum. Your question has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Forum descriptions can be found here: http://www.lucasforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 So the true sith ... now then whats up with the ex-mandalore serving Revan and getting his head chopped off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mandalore Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 So the true sith ... now then whats up with the ex-mandalore serving Revan and getting his head chopped off? The ex-Mandalore (Mandalore the Ultimate) did not work for Revan. He was the head of the Mandalorians in the Mandalorian Wars. He and Revan did battle on Malachor IV where Revan (obviously) came out the victor. Mandalore the Unbreakable's head (along with helmet) where chopped off. Revan took the helmet and hid it on Malachor. Years later, Revan commanded Canderous Ordo (Mandalore) to find the helmet and become the new Mandalore. Canderous did so and here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 That's right, although I don't remember Canderous saying that the helmet was hidden on Malachor. Maybe I'm wrong, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shem Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 The ex-Mandalore (Mandalore the Ultimate) did not work for Revan. He was the head of the Mandalorians in the Mandalorian Wars. He and Revan did battle on Malachor IV where Revan (obviously) came out the victor. Mandalore the Unbreakable's head (along with helmet) where chopped off. Revan took the helmet and hid it on Malachor. Years later, Revan commanded Canderous Ordo (Mandalore) to find the helmet and become the new Mandalore. Canderous did so and here we are. It's Malachore V (not IV ). Also, I don't recall Canderous saying where Revan hid the helmet, but just mentioned where Canderous could find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mandalore Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 It's Malachore V (not IV ). Ah yes you're right. I must have been thinking of Ichar IV from Warhammer 40K. And if you want to get technical, it not "Malachore" either. Also, I don't recall Canderous saying where Revan hid the helmet, but just mentioned where Canderous could find it. You are also correct. I must have just made the mental assumption that Revan hid it on or near the battlefield where Unbreakable fell. Thanks for bringing that to light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-false Jedi Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Speaking of Malachor IV...did anyone get the impression that the concept of the battle and the world changed between Kotor I and II? What was Malachor supposed to look liike before the mass shadow generator was activated? And descriptions of the battle seem different. And it sounds like the True Sith were the ones that convinced the Mandalorians to attack. They did have history with Exar Kun and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Round, with tall grass, large fields full of pink fluffeh kittens and where people spread peace and free love through the universe. Im working off the fact that there are only themed planets in star wars such as desert, forest etc so why can't there be a hippy planet. As for who started the Mandalorian wars, it is explained on the ravager isnt it when Canderous is chatting on after they board the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth traya_321 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 ok, it all started when the mandorlorian's started attacking worlds in the outer rim. then of course some jedi ( revan, exile, malak an others) couldn't stand by and watch the outer rim world's be destory. so then they went to fight the mandorlorian's. there revan defeated mandorle in an epic fight. supposaly kreia or'traya' said that there revan fell to the dark side. she felt guilt over revan fall and went to malachor and there fell to the dark side. later on she would train 2 students= sion and nihilus. and blah,blah,blah. sorry went way off the topic. but now you something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shem Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 And it sounds like the True Sith were the ones that convinced the Mandalorians to attack. They did have history with Exar Kun and so forth. I don't know about convince. According to Carth, which is according to Revan, the Mandalorians didn't have a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadi Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 I don't know about convince. According to Carth, which is according to Revan, the Mandalorians didn't have a choice. Go back to the first game because Canderous tells you that it was the Sith who went to the Mandalorians about going to war with the Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-false Jedi Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Canderous mentons that it was the Sith that came tot hem with the offer. And unless all the stuff Canderous has been telling us about Mandalorians is wrong, then it seems like a very "Mandalorian" thing to do. Its not exactly specified what their origional decision was motivated by...being forced to or make war or being offered to. Its seems to me that a Sith came to them and challenged their honor or something against he Republic. I doesn't seem like the Mandalorians would need to be forced to fight the republic. And it doesn't exactly conclude that they were forced to fight the republic, it just says that it might not have been their idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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