Rain Woman Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I felt like starting another new topic, in the hopes of starting some discussion on this board, so I'll go with something that I've been thinking about. Namely, I don't quite get some of the Psychonauts characters' Clairvoyance POVs. Most of them make sense; Milla sees Raz as a baby because she's so protective of children. Chops sees Raz as a hockey player because he's Canadian, eh. Bobby sees Raz as a punching bag with a target painted on it because he's your classic bully. Oleander sees Raz as a disembodied brain because he's plotting to use psychic children' brains to conquer the world. But some POVs seem strange to me. Why does Dogen see Raz as a disembodied helmet? Why does Milka see Raz as a shoe? (At least that's what I THINK her vision is; it's hard to tell from the one pic I've seen of it.) Why does Mikhail see Raz as simply...himself? (A stick-figure version of himself, but still...) Does Mikhail lack imagination? Maybe I'm thinking about this too hard...or, conversely, I'm thinking about this not hard enough. Anyway, if anyone here has any idea what any of these Clairvoyance POVs mean, feel free to let me know. "Okay, what the hell was that? I'm seeing some messed-up stuff in here, Sasha. This can't be right." "Ach. Why did I buy the CHEAP Brain Tumbler?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintor Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Hmmm. I dunno... I always thought that Dogen was too young to make out the person, so he would remember who was what by what they wore. I would've thought that Mikhail would've seen you as a wrestler, but alas, it was not to be. It would've been funky if you could see what they saw other people as with clairvoyance, too. Only a couple of people had more interesting clairvoyances - Boyd, for example. Does anybody know what El Odio sees you as? He always hits me before i figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Mikhail sees him as puny wimpy man who cannot wrestle bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Milka sees him as a shoe because she's ramdom. Or coarse we all know how Milka sees Elton (bow-chicka-wow-wow) But why does Elton see Raz as a Lili stealer? With a moustach? Even after he has his daily glass of Milk(lolz, did I just say that?) he still sees Raz as mister "I stole Lili's heart. YOU SUCK!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Elton loves Lili, so logically he would see Raz as a cliche' cartoonish villain. ...with a moustache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 but he loves Milka. LOVE TRIANGLE!!!!! To the fanfiction!!! ~swoosh~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrohappygirl Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Ah, the classic love triangle. With poor ole Raz in the middle. I don't get why Boyd sees Raz AS the milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleMuffin Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Ok here we go! Dogen: He feels that Raz steadies his mind. Most people fear him and he has that helmet to control his power. The reason he trusts and admires Raz is because of his sense of control. Milka: According to her myspace she is not treated very well at home. Her mom hates her cause she looks like her dad and she often hides by using her invisibility. I'm guessing she fears Raz might want to hurt her too... Mikhail: He has a thing about wrestling and thinks Raz is very weak. Raz could never take on a bear! Elton: Before Elton liked Milka he was crazy about Lili(he asks you about you and her in the beginning of the game) and he feels you are stealing her. While he still sees you that way after he is together with Milka is probably either bad planning or maybe we get a spiffy love triangle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrohappygirl Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Good ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleMuffin Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 I actually mainly got these from looking hard and looking at their myspace pages(makes it pretty obvious for most) Heheh it's too bad that the Elton/Milka/Lili thing wasn't played out a little more. Ah well, I'd be too busy listening to Vernon to pay attention. @_@ Can't stop...so pointless..yet..so....wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Ah well, I'd be too busy listening to Vernon to pay attention. @_@ Can't stop...so pointless..yet..so....wonderful You like Vernon, have you met KingCheez yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 I always thought Dogen saw Raz as a helmet cause he liked hats. Since he can't take his off without blowing up people heads XD Or something along those lines. But PurpleMuffin's reason sounds more logical. Here are all of the clairvoyance views, including El Odio's: http://tim.grimfandango.net/psy/info/clairvoy.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 ...Why does Maloof see Raz as Rhett Butler from Gone With the wind? I mean, does he see Lili as Scarlett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Maloof sees Raz as a mob boss, remember early on when Bobby was picking on Maloof and Raz got him to go away? Maloof (a very shy and timid chap) could only assume that he's now "in debt" to Raz, the new godfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Still, uncanny resenbalance to Rhett Butler. SO UNCANNY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlimondoll Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Maybe Milka sees him as a shoe because she listens to people's footsteps to tell when they're close enough to see her and then she disappears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleMuffin Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Maybe Milka sees him as a shoe because she listens to people's footsteps to tell when they're close enough to see her and then she disappears. that could also be it, good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 My god! We are GENIUSES!!!!! Still, i write killer Queen related fanfiction ~sublymonal message about reading my fanfiction on the official fanfiction thread~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Speaking of Queen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 GASP!!! Smon!! I glomp you! ~glomp attack~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Woman Posted June 12, 2006 Author Share Posted June 12, 2006 Ah, I see now. I noticed that Mikhail's POV had stick arms, but I thought that just about all of the other characters' POVs had stick arms (they all have simplified features, obviously), and I didn't notice what was different about Mikhail's. And I get Dogen's POV better now. He sees Raz as a helmet because he wears a special hat, too. As for Milka's, I think I'll go with darlimondoll's theory. Thanks for your insights, guys. "This makes me feel like I'm back in high school, which is weird because I'm only ten." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klia Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Maloof sees Raz as a mob boss, remember early on when Bobby was picking on Maloof and Raz got him to go away? Maloof (a very shy and timid chap) could only assume that he's now "in debt" to Raz, the new godfather. I never took the time to check that out, but now I will, and boy does it make change my whole perspective on Psychonauts. I would love to see Maloof in 10 years as the godfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Now all I can think of is a psychonauts version of the god-a-fada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintor Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Ah, I love that line when Maloof and Mikhail are playing psy-ball. "Someday, Raz, and that day may never come, i may call upon you to toss me a ball, or build a fort out of refridgerator boxes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Yes, excellent line. I can now imagine Bobby waking up next to a horses head. Bobby-AHHH WTF!!!!!!! STUPID HORSE!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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