REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 But intellect and effort aside, grades do matter. If you don't get good high school grades, you won't be able to go to a good college. If you don't go to a good college, you won't get a good job. If you don't get a good job, you'll be poor, bored, or both forevermore. And if your life can be described by any of those, it's either unpleasant, not worth living, or both. :thmbup1:Ignorance Award of the Week:thmbup1: hooray That's technically a lie. If high schools weren't designed for the sole purpose of getting you ready for college (it's all about the money really) you can learn everything you need to know to get a good job by the time you finish high school (heck, you could be fully skilled by the time you reach high school). Of course some jobs require years of study because of the vast amount of knowledge required, but there are quite a few good paying jobs out there that don't require a 4 year college degree and a pocket protector. If schools focused more on teaching kids a trade than how to write an A grade winning paper then those kids could enter that trade without having to go to college, and they might even be able to convert money saved on those college costs (aka robbery) into the foundation for their own business. So yes you can get a good job without going to college. And anyone who says you have to suffer through college to build character and all that crap obviously has never put in some of those good 16 hour days of trying to lay block before weather hits. And what's with the ripping on the athletes, they work hard to earn their jobs, and many of them could probably buy your house out from underneath you. In the above mentioned puzzle there is nothing stated about the content of the puzzle, the assumption is that it is mental-only puzzle, but that's not how life works. There are multiple facets to every problem and different kinds of problems, some people are better at solving certain problems or certain facets of problems (this is why you try to accumulate a diverse skillgroup for any work project), other puzzles exist which can be solved/exploited for personal gain. For example, the puzzle is a group of three large boxes, under one of the boxes is an item of high value, each box has many symbols and riddles which describe the location of the item, if more than one box is searched both contestants are instantly killed. The contestants... A large man who is built well and does quite a bit of physical labor, but is known to be poor at solving puzzles... A small woman who has multiple degrees in mathematics, psychology, and translation... Let the game begin!!!! The big guy takes a look at the boxes and then sits down in the middle of the floor to try and figure out the puzzle (you know he's not going to figure it out)... The woman starts pacing around the boxes muttering about equations and probability... The result.... The genius finally figures it out and runs over to the box as fast as she can to claim the treasure before the dumb guy can... As it turns out, the box is pretty dang heavy, and even though she managed to make time for the gym during her studies she can't lift the 600 lb behemoth to get the treasure (this is a sealed room with no macguyver supplies, only what you bring in you;))... The big idiot gets up, walks over and helps her lift the box... They are both very rich, and now have a couple kids on the way:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 That's technically a lie. That's from your perspective. My experience in America's educational system has gone the way I described it, so I'm simply drawing upon my experiences. you can learn everything you need to know to get a good job by the time you finish high school (heck, you could be fully skilled by the time you reach high school). I agree completely. The only reason I stayed in high school was so I could put together a good college application; I learned absolutely nothing that was of any practical use to me. I learned algebra... great... but I'm only going to have basic arithmetic for the rest of my life. Maybe I'll need some math that's more advanced, but algebraic equations will do me no good. It's sad, but I felt I recieved a better education outside of school than I did inside it. Reading books of my own choosing proved to be far more entertaining and educational than ones the school picked out. You don't need to be a genius to realize that someone can be a much more well-rounded and cultured person if they read Marxism over an 'introduction to social studies' textbook. High school teaches you nothing but fluff that you'll never need to use again in your life, or simply restates what you already know. The only usage I had for all those tests, papers and homework assignments was so I could get into a favorable college. After that, it has had no further usage in my life. That tells me our country's educational system is seriously flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 It's not perspective, it's the big picture (oh wait that's perspective too:xp: ) but you don't actually need college to get a good job and be successfull. I'm the same way, I got out of bookwork whenever possible to work with my dad, I still picked up on most of the textbook information but I learned way more by getting out and doing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 but you don't actually need college to get a good job and be successfull. That's perspective. How much college matters in your life depends heavily on what you want to do with it. As you have chosen construction to be your occupation, I can see that getting a master's degree wouldn't be very useful. But as the direction I've decided to go in my life places a heavier emphasis on books and degrees, college is a much more important thing to me. It is a matter of perspective, overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted August 26, 2006 Author Share Posted August 26, 2006 You DONT need to go to college to be successful. Those with low intellect can work thier way up the ladder, while seeing people half thier age with twice the grades be chosen above them for everything, but eventually hard work pays off. Regardless of your grades in highschool, sixthform, college, university, in this world you CAN get to the point where you earn ALOT of money. Property development is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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