Exile: Male or Female?

[Gavroche]

2. Kreia seems to be interested with the Disciple.

 

 

Oh, yes, I forgot that. But it's something I always like to see these scenes with Kreia and the Dsiciple. After reflexion, it quite replaces the "Bretayal!" moment. And there is another scene with the Exile and the Disciple are meditating with Kreia, watched by Atton who is interrupted by Mira.

[Emperor Devon]

There are actually voiceacting for this in the soundfiles, pointing to yet another deleted cutscene, where Atris orders Brianna to the quest to Brianna's surprise.

 

There's more cut content for the Handmiaden in 262TEL. She also has a short conversation with Kreia, a better confrontation with her sisters, some alternate dialogue for them to about her during their cutscenes, alternate lines in general, and a different reason for joining your party on the Ebon Hawk.

 

You could be right, but that actually makes it worse in my eyes, because then it's just bad (=forced) plot instead of poor characterization.

 

You could say the Handmiaden's was as well. Her father could've loved any woman to have her.

 

I really miss that "Betrayal!" in the female Exile's story - that was just so cool!

 

It is pretty cool. And there's some even better (cut) content for female Exiles on Malachor. Yes, it's not here now, but we'll all be able to enjoy it eventually. Atton killing Mical, being tortured to death by Sion, and lastly dying in the Exile's arms (well, more like on the ground but near her arms) adds some flavor to the game.

 

The whole love-interest is just stupid for Sion, if you ask me. When I played male, he was a dark, ominous enemy with incredible powers. When I played female he turned into a love-confused puppy

 

I liked that. I've seen far too many "I'm gonna rule the universe and kill everyone, including you!!" Sith Lords. It gets repetitive, and Sion was something new.

 

but it's not an issue here.

 

For me it is. I thought the Exile was a strong character, and if she's a female, that makes her a strong female character...

 

seeing as how he/she goes through the whole plot unaware of his/her true nature, while all the other jedi knew all along.

 

That goes for Revan as well.

 

Add to that the exile has been fleeing his/her choice at Malachor for a decade, and we have a very anti-heroic protagonist.

 

I wouldn't say that makes her any stronger or weaker a character. The Council exiled her, and she opportunities in the game to say that Malachor was a glorious and wonderful battle. That doesn't strike me as fleeing her choice.

 

 

I like that, but it certainly doesn't point to a strong leading character. If you want a strong female lead, then Revan would be a much better choice than Exile.

 

Revan I think is best as a male character. There are quite a few reasons I have for it, but they're not related to whether the Exile should be a male or female.

 

In fact, most Star Wars protagonists probably would be, since the Exile is about the most timid and cowed protagonist I've ever seen.

 

There aren't many people who've gone on journeys of self-awakening while killing hundreds, defeating three Sith Lords, and saving/weakening the galaxy.

[CSI]

Male, makes me less feel g**, you know.

[PoiuyWired]

That is something immature to say.

 

Actually I prefer male Exile (yes I know canon Exile is female) Well for one I really dislike that creepy stalkiing perv scumbag of a jedi wannabe desciple. And, a male Exile does work better when it comes to Visas. With a female Exile, Atton looks too much like a Han Solo wannabe.

 

Well, Brianna can be done better also, but as least she is not creepy and annoying. As in, even if I get annoyed by her, I would not have the urge to jetterson her out of the airlock into hyperspace, nor would I enjoy shredding her to ribbons painfully.

 

And yes, Go-To should NOT be a playable character. His story is interesting yes, but for the most part he is just annoying. He can be on the ship, I have no problems with that, but playable? I think that is quite unnecessary. I rather tham give me a little pet gizka or something.

[CSI]

Thinking about it now, I think both the Handmaiden and the Disciple should've been in the game. G0-T0 could be replaced (I tried using him and he weren't that great) and he didn't add much to the story, except see the Remote at the end. That could still happen though. Also both the Handmaiden and the Disciple are needed to advance the story.

 

Handmaiden's reasons:

 

1. To advance the story with Atris and her downfall.

 

2. Kreia seems to be interested with the Handmaiden.

 

3. Become one of the Jedi to help rebuild the Order.

 

4. Soon become better than her sisters.

 

5. Show the relationship between her and Visas (If Male PC).

 

Disciples's reasons:

 

1. To show more relationship between him and Carth.

 

2. Kreia seems to be interested with the Disciple.

 

3. Become one of the Jedi to help rebuild the Order.

 

4. Help find out about the Sith.

 

5. Show the relationship between him and Atton (If Female PC).

 

Pottsie is got a point. I agree on Disciple and Handmaiden should be both in game because both of them can be trained as Jedi Consular/Jedi Guardian. Well, one melee specialist, one cockpit pilot, one assassinate droid, one expert droid, 2 Jedi (Not counting Exile), one expert engineer, one historian, one bounty hunter, and a Maladore general (Who has a real army!) is perfect because everything is solved here--no more worries. But for 2 expert droids, exp. 1 of them is a *crime lord*, I hate this idea. Like I said before, if I want to play basketball with anybody, I'll first choose him.

 

That is something immature to say.

And yes, Go-To should NOT be a playable character. His story is interesting yes, but for the most part he is just annoying. He can be on the ship, I have no problems with that, but playable? I think that is quite unnecessary. I rather tham give me a little pet gizka or something.

 

I agree. Goto is pain in the a**. He sabotaged Bao-Dur's pet droid, and want Bao-Dur to upgrade for him? Forget it! If I were Bao-Dur, I'll borrow the lightsaber from Nihilus(My name to Exile) and shred him into thousands of piece-Even thinner than paper from shredder!

[Vaelastraz]

Female. Even though I'm male.

 

Out of all new NPCs in KOtor II, I liked Atton the best. I did never like Visasor the Handmaiden. Their personalities are so... unnatural to me

 

Anyway, Atton is a lot of fun and the interaction with him is just better when you're female. Additionally, Mical had a few interesting things to tell (apart from that I can't stand him).

[bleachcreep21]

I've played as both and I don't mind if the Exile is a Male or a Female. Revan on the other hand has no chance of being a Female though.

 

I'm the exact opposite regarding KOTOR I - the game seemed much more interesting with a female Revan - especially where Carth, Malak, and Master Vrook was concerned. I like male Revan only for the fact that you can torment Bastila.

[Allronix]

What the title says, and there wasn't a thread about this already. Do you think the Exile is best as a man or a woman?

 

 

I play a LSF Revan, and can go on for pages about why that was, IMO the best story for Knights 1.

 

For Knights 2? Darksider Male - all the way.

 

First of all, Brianna had the closest thing anyone got to a full-blown story arc. She starts off the weakest, the shunned and despised product of an affair that destroyed both parents. And when she returns, she is the herald of doom for those who were stronger than her before. Mical, as great as he is for game mechanics, does not have that arc in his favor.

 

Second, Atris's jealousy and bitterness. OK, you could go for a Juhani and wonder if a female Exile could provoke the same reaction, but it makes more sense for her to get very bitter over someone she loved choosing Revan over her. Especially if you factor in how she could never say or do anything about her feelings to begin with because of the Order and her dogmatic approach.

 

Third, Kreia's speech about whether Visas's scars would "excitre" the Exile. That has to be the most freaking creepy thing I've ever heard in a game.

 

Fourth, Sion "loving" a female Exile makes little sense, but a couple guys jockying for power does - especially given Sion's approach to anything.