Totenkopf Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I think that my job is degrading! I have a job at a grocery store, and part of that job includes cleaning toilets and collecting trash. This is as nasty as it gets, my friend. You do not know what "bad" smells like until you've done my job. Actually, I've a pretty good idea, as do many people, b/c I've smelled what gets left behind in some of those bathrooms before you guys ever get around to cleaning them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balderdash Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I tend to believe that the overwhelming majority of people who enjoy porn don't suffer from the experience themselves, and don't abuse anyone (as a result of watching or participating, or otherwise). Clearly in some ways it's not a completely healthy habit, and it's definitely not good to obsess about, but that doesn't make it immoral. And I don't see why people who enjoy porn (or even find it useful for their own sex lives as others have pointed out) should fall foul of censorship just because of idiots that do associate the industry with unethical and unlawful practises. To bring yet another analogy to the table; it's almost like saying that guns should be completely banned because they're sometimes used in murders. The difference is, gun laws really are a matter of life and death; and guns themselves are really the crux of the issue and not scapegoat or a taboo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediKnight707 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I've got to agree with the men here, and maybe the reason I agree with them is because I'm a man. Regardless, I think that what ET and others were saying is true. To say that porn is degrading to women is a matter of opinion, and its one I disagree with. Its not degrading, no matter how the girl is treated. Is it degrading when the woman is chained up? IMO, no. She had a choice in that matter and if she didn't want to do it, she didn't have to. So, to call it degrading would be saying that she makes a wrong choice, and that is merely a matter of opinion. Would I ever watch a woman get choked or strap herself in latex? No, because I don't find that sexually arousing. But, there are some out there that do, and they can watch it all they want. As for the child pornography issue, I agree. I think that kiddie porn is absolutely disgusting and that anyone who participates in it should rot in Hell. But, I doubt that anyone here is a pedophile, so to discuss this issue is moot. Talk to the people that watch that kind of trash, not us. I think that a lot of people have jobs that to some degree are degrading, some more than others. Why is it that only porn is seen as degrading? Or is it okay for a man's job to be degrading, but if a woman's job is considered degrading, that's not okay? Amen. This is a double standard, but as a man, I think its a neccesary double standard. Women today see things from a different perspective, and by that I mean that they belive that if something that women don't participate in, or aren't as active in, its the man's fault for not allowing women to participate or something to that general nature. All power to women and all, but there are somethings that (not to sound to cliche here) are better left to men. /off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Given that men and women do a lot of the same kind of "degrading" jobs, I'm not sure that's relevant. As Jae pointed out, she cleaned toilets too. Females also do a lot of the nursing type jobs that put them into contact with a lot of disgusting smells and other "byproducts". I think it's the whole "image" thing that gets them upset. Let's face it, a lot of guys tend to see women as pieces of meat and porn has a way of ingraining that instinct before (if ever w/some guys) it's straightened out. It doesn't help women as a group, though, that other women are often very willing participants in the creation of porn--from softcore like Playboy up to the hardcore variety. It has become commoditized in modern society, so the best solution is probably to regulate it's creation and distribution (perhaps more stringently that currently), outlawing the snuff films, child porn, bestial and other warped varieties. Basically much of what is being done currently. We may not be able to put an end to it, but can make it less readily available, or at least openly so. Maybe we should ban love stories and soap operas too, as the give many young woman a false image of love and sexuality with their knight in shinning armor stories. Touche`. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredi Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I need to say it... I love porn for real!! And I am not degrading woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Pornstars are entertainers starring in various media. Well yes, the main purpose of their performance is to get people aroused, but that does not mean it is a degrading thing. Sure there are more abusive pron out there(slong with some really obscure stuff), but that is to satisify some people's fetish. Remember, Fetish is not wrong, as long as it is done between two consentual adults, without killing themselves. While I really don't enjoy some of the activities shown in some pronz, I respect that some people might enjoy those. porngraphy itself is, just like any sex toys and what not, an aid to sexual activities, even if that is often times a sexual activity for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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