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I have nothing against lesbians....In fact I love lesbians....Or maybe its just lesbianic acts.....whatever biggrin.gif

 

Gays.......yuck! Get away you freaks.

 

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Yeah especially (stupid spelling) the ones that act like they are gay. I mean, if a guy loves another guy, so what? As long as the other guy isnt me, i dont give a 5hit. But i really hate the gays tha are gay (wow hooray for logic) and act like they are gay (you know the pink and purple stuff, the dressing up as a women or dressing in leather.) They are so annyoing

 

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i would guess that theres always a gay "man" and the gay "woman", like that movie...

 

btw, eveything is genetic, helen, we were discussing wheter it is "good" or "bad"

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i dont have a MAJOR hate against fags..erm, i mean homosexuals. as long as they dont pinch my butt...<IMG SRC="http://www.escapemi.com/forums/smilies/cwm22.gif" border=0>

 

helenW, i started coloring my hair blue for individuality....instead it lead to a trend...<IMG SRC="http://www.escapemi.com/forums/smilies/cwm21.gif" border=0>

 

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Al, EVERYTHING is not genetic. Phobias are learned responses through classical conditioning, the person unable to form close relationships with people as an adult may have this problem because of sexual abuse as a child. An illiterate person may be less academic because they have had no formal education as a child and have not been able to develop their potential fully, not because genes have made them stupid. Sorry to use psychology examples but that is my area of knowledge.

There are many more examples of behaviours that are not genetic. Obviously genes do play an important part but it is naive to say that genes are everything, without taking environmental factors into consideration. The two elements work together to shape who we all are.

 

NiKo, I wasn't having a dig at your blue hair, I was just using you as an example, cos nobody in the world has blue as their natural hair colour. My point was that your hair colour is dyed not natural, but that there is nothing wrong with this, thats OK. I was just using your hair as an analogy.

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Originally posted by NiKo:

i dont have a MAJOR hate against fags..erm, i mean homosexuals. as long as they dont pinch my butt...<IMG SRC="http://www.escapemi.com/forums/smilies/cwm22.gif" border=0>

 

helenW, i started coloring my hair blue for individuality....instead it lead to a trend...<IMG SRC="http://www.escapemi.com/forums/smilies/cwm21.gif" border=0>

 

 

Everyone's been colouring their hair for ages. Trying to be individual is one of the worst things you can do. True individuality is natural. I think you probably just tended to notice more people with dyed hair after you got it done. Like when you learn what a word means and it tens to put up alot more in everyday life

 

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Yes, unless they're pointing, laughing and throwing electrical appliances (particularly washing machines/fridge-freezers)

 

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Originally posted by HelenW:

Al, EVERYTHING is not genetic. Phobias are learned responses through classical conditioning, the person unable to form close relationships with people as an adult may have this problem because of sexual abuse as a child.

 

i read this book other day, Metamorphosis something... i forget. anyways, it says that, diffrent from wot many ppl say, she believes that one's genes leads to their weakenes towards one's phobia, thats y some ppl may b bit by a spider and develop arachnophobia, while others may watch their dog being eaten by a spider and not get much of anything. n that explains y some ppl (very rare) dont have any phobias at all: their weak point wasnt called on.

 

Originally posted by HelenW:

An illiterate person may be less academic because they have had no formal education as a child and have not been able to develop their potential fully, not because genes have made them stupid. Sorry to use psychology examples but that is my area of knowledge.

 

not having the opportunity to study is obviously not genetics, but being able to learn a certain amount of stuf by some/any source is definitly genetic.

 

 

Originally posted by HelenW:

There are many more examples of behaviours that are not genetic. Obviously genes do play an important part but it is naive to say that genes are everything, without taking environmental factors into consideration. The two elements work together to shape who we all are.

 

by everthing, i meant our essence rolleyes.gif. obviously, its not genetics if the the sky is blue or theres no oxigen on the moon or wotever, but wot im trying to say is: genetics, even indirectly, r always influencing your life.

tahts the case w gays, u can argue about the enviromental crap, but the genes that decide wether u r gonna care or not bout the enviroment (and how much).

 

btw- dont apolagize because of the psychology, i like that stuff also; dont worry about me not understand u, i ve read a lot of books in that, its pretty cool. <IMG SRC="http://www.escapemi.com/forums/smilies/cwm11.gif" border=0>

 

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By murta:

Like when you learn what a word means and it tens to put up alot more in everyday life

 

Yeah, like penuts.

 

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Ooh, I don't have any phobias. The scariest thing is probably dropping in on a half pipe for the first time. It looks easy until you get up there, even if it's a small one

 

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Originally posted by murta:

Everyone's been colouring their hair for ages. Trying to be individual is one of the worst things you can do. True individuality is natural. I think you probably just tended to notice more people with dyed hair after you got it done.

not blue. not here in israel.

i was the first to do it about 3 years ago,

now theres another bluehaired guy at my school.

and i disagree.

ever seen the lizard man?

the tiger man?

they did what they did for indivuduality.

i say: f*ck fashion! create your own. screw trends, one week and theyre gone.

 

and helenW, i know what you ment. i was using the angry smiley for those at school trying to copy everything i do/wear/say. smile.gif

 

 

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Al, I'm not saying that genes are not important in defining our personalities and stuff I'm just saying that genes are not the be all and end all. Genetics may indicate a prepensity towards a certain disposition or charactoristic, but often these do not manifest themselves until an environmental trigger occurs. A classic example of this is phobias as we have already discussed. True, a person may be predisposed to dvelop a phobia, but without the environmental trigger (i.e the bad experience with the spider or whatever) the phobia does not develop.

I have a question for you, if phobias are purely genetic, how can cognitive or behavioural therapy override something which is determined by genes. The genetic structure of an individual can't be changed so how come things like, exposure therapy and desensitsation therapy, straight out of the school of behavioural psychology be successful. I have seen from personal experience the use of behavioural techniques to treat phobias and anxieties.

 

As it so happens, I do beliee that genetics do play a huge part in determining our personality and charactoristics and I am personally very interested in the study of genetics. It's just that environmental factors also have an influence as well.

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Murta: Ok, Niko isnt trying to be DIFFERENT he is trying to seperate himself from the people who are trying to be the same! Trying to be an individual isnt a crime, its perfectly fine. Of course you can be and individual naturally but he wants to seperate himeself from those fasionable people in an extreme way (dont we all)

 

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Originally posted by becc2cool:

I'm diffrent for exsample i ... Can anybody guess?

 

You're annoying? Is that how you're different?

 

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