"Attacker Told Me 'No Decency, No God'"

[Nedak]

I agree in that case.

 

I guess I was just baffled by the whole "raping a 77" year old thing.

 

I also have been reading a lot about serial killers, so I think that I was over analyzing the situation.

 

Anyways, I do agree and talk a lot about how people always assume the person is mentally ill (maybe not on these forums) and I guess I just had a hypocritical moment.

haha

 

EDIT: I also agree on hormonally imbalanced, and I guess that's what I was meaning to say.

[Achilles]

I don't think I'd call rapists mentally unhealthy, but I'd certainly suggest they're hormonally imbalanced. Then again my perspective is skewed by a scientific mind, which tends to think mental illness is also caused by some kind of physical imbalance.

I not sure that we can attribute mental illness to "bad hardware" only.

[mur'phon]

As per my earlier post, I contend the term 'mental illness' has lost a lot of its meaning because people use it too often and for things that don't necessarily warrant it.

 

I agree, that was why I wanted him to explain what he meant with the word.

 

Then again my perspective is skewed by a scientific mind, which tends to think mental illness is also caused by some kind of physical imbalance.

 

Skewed by a scientific mind? Achilles will love this:D

Anyway, I do agree that in most cases there is something physical involved, but I would be carefull with talking about it like an ilness (I know you didn't, you just sounded that way). With the diferences in the setup of each persons thinking box/stuff that afects it, defining a strict "normal" setup would leave everyone sick (in one area), which seems very wrong to me.

[Nedak]

I agree' date=' that was why I wanted him to explain what he meant with the word.[/quote']

 

Some sort of mental imbalance or chemical imbalance.

 

I don't know if you would call it mentally ill, but something that doesn't work quite right in their brain... maybe caused by something that happened earlier in their life, or maybe just something wrong with them since they were born.

[Inyri]

I not sure that we can attribute mental illness to "bad hardware" only.

Certainly not, but it is a larger factor than a lot of people would like to admit. Naturally environment is the other half of the pie.

 

Skewed by a scientific mind? Achilles will love this

What ya talkin' about? He already called me out on it.

 

Most rapists/murderers/etc are fully aware that their actions are wrong and against the law. I don't care how out of flux their hormones are -- they're guilty as sin if they know it's wrong.

[mur'phon]

Trouble is, our brains are quite different from person to person, some of those diferences are called diseases, some aren't. For instance, some people are genetically predisposed to have a short fuse, others to be restless, yet only one of them is considered a disease (ADHD).

[Rev7]

Or maybe he was just a very evil, bad man.

That too.

[PoiuyWired]

Kevin McKeither was found guilty of raping a 77 year old woman. This is what the victim told police he said when he raped her: "The victim says she asked her attacker: "Don't you have any decency?" And the man told her, "you stupid woman, there is no decency. There is no God."

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First of all, it makes me wonder if he mean what he say, or is he just "smack talking" which I strongly suggest that this is the case.

 

If he had raped her because she happened to be a different religion from him, would that have made a difference to you? Would it have made a difference in how the press covered the story?

 

Well then, it would be just yet another (a)religious hatecrime. You know, in some (uncivilized) parts of the world nutty "guys with guns" are still running amok, and some of which would rape/pillage/mutilate people "as a reminder of them not believing in the whatever twisted version of their default religion"

 

But as I said, I highly doubt this guy actually mean what he says, or actually KNOWS what he says for that matter. And no I am not going into the topic of how people confuse about their (a)religious identity, or how theist/atheist can act similar for their own good/bad ideals for similar reasons, those topics have their own (many) threads.

[Achilles]

Certainly not, but it is a larger factor than a lot of people would like to admit.

I'll be honest and admit that I haven't followed the field of psychology that closely since I dropped it as a major many years ago. Could you please update my understanding by providing a source for the above assertion? Thank in advance.

 

Most rapists/murderers/etc are fully aware that their actions are wrong and against the law. I don't care how out of flux their hormones are -- they're guilty as sin if they know it's wrong.

This too please.

 

While I tend to agree with you regarding guilt, I'm not quite sure what that has to do with their mental health. I would tend to think that someone capable of recognizing that their actions are inappropriate, yet are unable to control themselves to keep from performing them anyway is probably not well. But again, that's just my opinion.