Druganator Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 id like to hear what anyone else has to say about this topic and id like to see if anyone would like to have a friendly argument to see who can defend their position For clarification purposes, it appears this topic is about the current administration of the US. --Jae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I'm opposed to the current administration and a lot of how the government works. HOWEVER, I do not agree with the idea of there being no government. The government needs to be changed for the better, not removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 if it were up to me id remove every one who holds office and start from scratch with a new system of government that combines the best parts socialism and capitalism and i would adopt isolationism because whatever happens in other countries is the uns business not ours but i dont think having no form of government would help anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Developing Isolationism would be a fearful and uncaring way to govern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 i wouldnt be afraid of other countries i just wouldnt stick my nose into other countries business at the expense of my peoples lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 So we should do what we did in WWII and just sit back while other countries get taken over, then not do anything until we get attacked ourselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 i see your point and im not saying that, my isolationism has nothing to do with iraq and the threat they supposedly posed which we had no way to kno was really not a threat. i just think wed be better off only attacking ppl that threaten us not themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Why would you need isolationism to do that? How about just being rational government, instead of making such drastic changes? Now I see why I'm the only one debating here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 yea i see ur point i guess im just so used to how stupidly our government is being run that i thot that that was what people thot a rational government was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 i wouldnt be afraid of other countries i just wouldnt stick my nose into other countries business at the expense of my peoples lives What if it concerns the safety of your country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigundr Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Isolationism worked great for feudal Japan because they were an island, and an island is much easier to police. We're a continent. Hell, we're PART of a continent. It'd be damn difficult if not impossible to police the borders. Iraq, I think (don't yell at me sala), was more of a "what if" situation than an actual threat. It did, possibly, change things for the better regarding government and the ruling regime and what not. BTW, we're part of the UN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 If I do recall we are an Imperialistic nation as well, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 and yes we are part of the un i kno that but we are essentially the only country from the un fighting in the middle east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigundr Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 If I do recall we are an Imperialistic nation as well, no? Not really. Imperialism deals more with colonies and protectorates. ...but we are essentially the only country from the un fighting in the middle east Bull****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 who else? im actually wondering who else because i kno that britain helped a little bit but im not aware who else Please use proper English and not IM speak, Druganator. It's too hard for our non-native English speakers to decipher. Thanks, Jae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigundr Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 UK, Australia, Poland, Georgia. That's more than one member state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 georgia? is that the place that just split from russia? and i forgot about australia and poland my bad. 5 countries out of how many in the un? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigundr Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 ...how young are you? Georgia has been a UN member since July of '92. And split from Russia in '91. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I suggest you do more research to base your views off of Druganator. Read some Chomsky books or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 im sorry im only 17 and when i think of georgia i think of the state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigundr Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 ... you poor, poor culturally deficient child. Don't flame. --Jae I suggest you stock up on European lit and take a tour round the continent. You'd be amazed at what you'd learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 NO! While I’m not a fan of the current administration, I’m not opposed to the current government. I could not even fathom how you could redo the entire government and produce a better working model than we have now. Is it flawed? Undoubtedly, but with the divisions in this country today how flawed do you think a new government would be. We cannot even agree on how to reform Social Security, how well do you really believe we would do in writing a new Constitution? Our founding fathers were of privilege, but they were also trying to correct the errors of what they considered an unfair system. Today, you would again have men/women of privilege writing our laws just as we have in Washington since our government foundation. By allowing them to rewrite the laws we would only be looking at 100% of corporations not paying taxes instead of 1/3 that pay them now. IMO ridiculous idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 i plan on heading to amsterdam after i graduate and touring through europe and yes i am culturally deficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 i would appoint myself emperor and make people lay in front of me when i walk so i could walk on people's backs not the dirty dirty ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I could not even fathom how you could redo the entire government and produce a better working model than we have now.The one we have right now or the one the Framers established more than 200 years ago? Anyone here ever have to reformat their hard drive and reinstall all their software because their OS got too bogged down with junk? Check out the General Tech Discussion forum. They have some terrific info there, and I bet this would be an excellent thread topic there. --Jae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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