US Presidential debates

[Achilles]

You now have a copy. You're welcome to consider it "fake" if you'd like, however if you're going to be honest, you have to apply the same standards to anything out of the McCain camp (having one set of standards for one candidate and another for the other isn't being objective).

 

But now that we have that one out of the way, we can move on to the next "lie". Or perhaps you could save us some time and provide a list of all the things that Obama "lied" about. Because just saying that someone lied isn't going to be sufficient.

 

Other links to Obama's letter: clicky. (hint: the content of the letter does not change)

[mimartin]

That would be like me using the McCain's campaign website as a source...

or FoxNews.

[Achilles]

In this example, the "source" doesn't matter. The letter could have been posted on howmuchIhateBarackObama.com and it wouldn't have mattered. The source is the letter itself, not the site it's hosted on.

[GarfieldJL]

Well first of all I thought it was supposed to have been in 2006, second of all, as I've said before why should I believe that Obama sent a letter when he's outright lied about other stuff.

 

Seriously, it took a pretty long time to come up with the letter.

[Achilles]

Still waiting for that list of lies. Please realize that if you fail to produce one, we'll be left with no other alternative than to assume that you're just making this up.

 

...and no it didn't. I saw your post, Googled "Obama letter March 2007" and posted a link. It took no time at all, because I actually knew the letter existed (instead of believing that it was a lie).

[GarfieldJL]

His lying about the level of association with Bill Ayers is a good starting point.

[Rogue Nine]

Ayers wasn't even mentioned last night. Stop mudslinging and please come up with a list of 'lies' that Obama said in the debate so that we don't have to assume that you're just making this all up.

 

Full Transcript to get you started.

[CommanderQ]

Well, in this situation that America is in, we obviously need a strong leader, both parties have the guts to pull us through this crisis, but by now...

It just matters what they stand for, I for one, agree on some of both McCain's policies and Obama's policies. But both have there faults. Then we come to the vice president's candidates, Biden would be a strong vice president, but he probably has something hiding beneath his political smile, he's also not clear on what he stands for, taxes or no taxes{same with Obama}. Palin, she is strong as well, and she has held her own on the last debate, but she doesn't have the experience that Biden might have. But that wouldn't ruin the situation. All the candidates are good, but there standings are all over the place on the economy and how the war should be run, we'll just have to wait and see what the candidates say and stand for.

 

Reading back on the pages. Obama is off about a lot things he said. Other words, no truth the way I see it. It won't help to have a president who will deny us what is actually happening or happened. But that's politics.

 

McCain as well, was off on some of the things he said, both candidates have fallen a little short on this last debate. It certainly wasn't like the first one.