Achilles Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Philosophical zombies that is. Summary provided by Wikipedia: a hypothetical being that is indistinguishable from a normal human being except that it lacks conscious experience, qualia, or sentience. When a zombie is poked with a sharp object, for example, it does not feel any pain. However, it behaves exactly as if it does feel pain (it may say "ouch" and recoil from the stimulus), but it does not actually have the experience of pain as a putative 'normal' person does. P-zombies are a reoccurring topic in one of the books that I am currently reading. What are your thoughts? Could such a creature really exist? What test could we devise to distinguish between an actual conscious being and a zombie (if any)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcesious Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Ask the zombie a question only a sentient could answer by using critical thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 By its very definition, it would be capable of responding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelastraz Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I dont think you could devise such a test. If it behaves like a human and if it's biologically identical to a human, how could you possibly work out a difference? Though, I wonder, if it is poked with a knife and it doesn't feel pain, what does it feel? If it doesn't feel anything, how can it react accordingly to different sensations such as pleasure and pain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 The argument is that it's been "programmed" to respond 100% convincingly. What's entertaining is to read how these experts are absolutely convinced zombies could exist, these experts are absolutely convinced zombies could not exist, and these experts are absolutely convinced the question itself is utterly pointless. Experts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelastraz Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I tend to agree with 1. and 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 The argument is that it's been "programmed" to respond 100% convincingly. What's entertaining is to read how these experts are absolutely convinced zombies could exist, these experts are absolutely convinced zombies could not exist, and these experts are absolutely convinced the question itself is utterly pointless. Experts This sounds like something a p-zombie would be programmed to say. Is a p-zombie the result of listening to P-Funk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 no p-diddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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